[PICS] Death of a Small Town
 

These are from this past summer, an entire roll of Delta 3200 in a
small town near dusk.

Death of a Small Town (An Evening With A Roll of Delta 3200)
http://www.jlkramer.net/Pictures/LT/SmallTown1.htm

The good, the bad, the ugly and the absurd...

[PICS] Death of a Small Town
 

JimKramer wrote:

These are from this past summer, an entire roll of Delta 3200 in a
small town near dusk.

Death of a Small Town (An Evening With A Roll of Delta 3200)
http://www.jlkramer.net/Pictures/LT/SmallTown1.htm

The good, the bad, the ugly and the absurd...

Interesting. The extra grain of the 3200 enhances the feeling of
bleakness. How 'small' of a town is it?

Gotta lose that background on the thumbnail page, though.

Death of a Small Town
 

On Jan 31, 11:58 am, JimKramer wrote:
These are from this past summer, an entire roll of Delta 3200 in a
small town near dusk.

Death of a Small Town (An Evening With A Roll of Delta 3200)http://www.jlkramer.net/Pictures/LT/SmallTown1.htm

The good, the bad, the ugly and the absurd...

Some very nice stuff there, Jim, but Dave's right- that background
sucks - what were you thinking? (O:

It also highlights (pun not intended..) the fact that those images are
all a bit short on true blacks - is that an artistic choice? I would
have thought using the full dynamic range would add to the feeling,
but I may be wrong. And I guess going to full blacks might also over-
emphasise the noise...

[PICS] Death of a Small Town
 

JimKramer wrote:
These are from this past summer, an entire roll of Delta 3200 in a
small town near dusk.

Death of a Small Town (An Evening With A Roll of Delta 3200)
http://www.jlkramer.net/Pictures/LT/SmallTown1.htm

The good, the bad, the ugly and the absurd...

Your pics are interesting from a journalistic perspective (pun
unintentional), but the tonal gradation from that 3200 film is
shockingly bad, as is the grain, clearly visible even on the smallish
images.

If I had done a similar walk around a semi-derelict town and came back
with images like those, I would be deeply disappointed.

What do you think of them yourself? Would you use Delta again?

Colin D.

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[PICS] Death of a Small Town
 

Colin_D wrote:

Your pics are interesting from a journalistic perspective (pun
unintentional), but the tonal gradation from that 3200 film is
shockingly bad, as is the grain, clearly visible even on the smallish
images.

I'm not the photographer, but I'd like to throw my 2 cents in too.

I disagree with you. The grain and lack of gradation give the pictures
a look which I think goes well with the subject. They have the "look"
of 1950's 35mm photography, or pre-WWII medium format.

What I disliked is the lack of cropping. For example, the picture of
the church has a large gray area in front of it. On paper, it may be
the street, on my monitor it just is a mass of gray grain. There are
no clouds in the sky ABOVE the steeple, so cropping there would make
the picture more interesting and leave nothing out.

On the whole, I think they would make a good exhibit on paper, and
with some judicious cropping, a good web display would be better.

If I had done a similar walk around a semi-derelict town and came back
with images like those, I would be deeply disappointed.

Everyone's taste is different. I found them interesting, well photographed
and the choice of film suited the subject.

Would Cartier-Bresson's (pardon any spelling mistakes) pictures of
Paris look as good if shot on the latest Kodak Consumer color print
film?

Geoff.


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IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838
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Death of a Small Town
 

On Jan 30, 11:35*pm, The Dave© wrote:
JimKramer wrote:

These are from this past summer, an entire roll of Delta 3200 in a
small town near dusk.

Death of a Small Town (An Evening With A Roll of Delta 3200)
http://www.jlkramer.net/Pictures/LT/SmallTown1.htm

The good, the bad, the ugly and the absurd...

Interesting. *The extra grain of the 3200 enhances the feeling of
bleakness. *How 'small' of a town is it?

Gotta lose that background on the thumbnail page, though.

Just under 6000 in the 2000 census.

Death of a Small Town
 

On Jan 31, 1:47*am, wrote:
On Jan 31, 11:58 am, JimKramer wrote:

These are from this past summer, an entire roll of Delta 3200 in a
small town near dusk.

Death of a Small Town (An Evening With A Roll of Delta 3200)http://www.jlkramer.net/Pictures/LT/SmallTown1.htm

The good, the bad, the ugly and the absurd...

Some very nice stuff there, Jim, but Dave's right- that background
sucks - what were you thinking? (O:

It also highlights (pun not intended..) the fact that those images are
all a bit short on true blacks - is that an artistic choice? *I would
have thought using the full dynamic range would add to the feeling,
but I may be wrong. *And I guess going to full blacks might also over-
emphasise the noise...

I was thinking that you'd start with the first thumbnail and look at
the frames rather than go back to the thumbnails. :-)

Death of a Small Town
 

On Jan 31, 6:32 am, Colin_D wrote:
JimKramer wrote:
These are from this past summer, an entire roll of Delta 3200 in a
small town near dusk.

Death of a Small Town (An Evening With A Roll of Delta 3200)
http://www.jlkramer.net/Pictures/LT/SmallTown1.htm

The good, the bad, the ugly and the absurd...

Your pics are interesting from a journalistic perspective (pun
unintentional), but the tonal gradation from that 3200 film is
shockingly bad, as is the grain, clearly visible even on the smallish
images.

If I had done a similar walk around a semi-derelict town and came back
with images like those, I would be deeply disappointed.

What do you think of them yourself? Would you use Delta again?

Colin D.

--
Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com

A few I like very much, most I would throw away, more I would like to
re-shoot with a different format something with tilt/shift would be
nice. Some I wished very much I had a color camera that I was
carrying. There had been a fire and a storm was rolling in, so the
sunset was very colorful, looked more like the sky was on fire.

I have shot Delta 3200 since @ 1600 much cleaner and better tonality,
but still grainy as sand. I achieved the effect that I wanted from
this roll, so I got what I wanted, I just didn't like all of it. :-)

Death of a Small Town
 

On Jan 31, 6:54 am, (Geoffrey S. Mendelson) wrote:
Colin_D wrote:
Your pics are interesting from a journalistic perspective (pun
unintentional), but the tonal gradation from that 3200 film is
shockingly bad, as is the grain, clearly visible even on the smallish
images.

I'm not the photographer, but I'd like to throw my 2 cents in too.

I disagree with you. The grain and lack of gradation give the pictures
a look which I think goes well with the subject. They have the "look"
of 1950's 35mm photography, or pre-WWII medium format.


It's nice to know that I succeeded on this level, at least.

What I disliked is the lack of cropping. For example, the picture of
the church has a large gray area in front of it. On paper, it may be
the street, on my monitor it just is a mass of gray grain. There are
no clouds in the sky ABOVE the steeple, so cropping there would make
the picture more interesting and leave nothing out.

This is a link to the full scan at 2000 DPI, 4000 just made the grain
stand out more and there was no additional discernable detail in the
image. About 4MB
http://www.jlkramer.net/Pictures/LT/...08%20D3200.jpg

So you see it is just a mass of gray and grain. :-)


On the whole, I think they would make a good exhibit on paper, and
with some judicious cropping, a good web display would be better.

If I had done a similar walk around a semi-derelict town and came back
with images like those, I would be deeply disappointed.

Everyone's taste is different. I found them interesting, well photographed
and the choice of film suited the subject.

Thank you.

Would Cartier-Bresson's (pardon any spelling mistakes) pictures of
Paris look as good if shot on the latest Kodak Consumer color print
film?

Geoff.

--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM
IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838
Visit my 'blog athttp://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/

Death of a Small Town
 

JimKramer wrote:
On Jan 31, 1:47*am, wrote:
On Jan 31, 11:58 am, JimKramer wrote:

These are from this past summer, an entire roll of Delta 3200 in a
small town near dusk.

Death of a Small Town (An Evening With A Roll of Delta
3200)http://www.jlkramer.net/Pictures/LT/SmallTown1.htm

The good, the bad, the ugly and the absurd...

Some very nice stuff there, Jim, but Dave's right- that background
sucks - what were you thinking? (O:

It also highlights (pun not intended..) the fact that those images
are all a bit short on true blacks - is that an artistic choice? *I
would have thought using the full dynamic range would add to the
feeling, but I may be wrong. *And I guess going to full blacks
might also over- emphasise the noise...

I was thinking that you'd start with the first thumbnail and look at
the frames rather than go back to the thumbnails. :-)

Which is exactly what I did, but my initial reaction when I first
loaded the thumbnail page was "Eww!".