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Bill Hilton October 9th 03 06:25 PM

Fatal bear attack in Katmai National Park
 
I've photographed Alaskan brown bears in Katmai the past couple of years at
Brooks Camp, which is a wonderful place to get close to them.

Several times I've come across bears on the trails at short range (even though
I always make noise to warn them) and a couple of times they've approached to
within a few yards while I photographed. Last fall one bear approached to
within 10 yards and I got my best shot, then kept coming to within 5 yards (the
point where my lens would no longer close focus) before veering off. I was
standing in knee deep rushing water with heavy gear and had limited options so
just rode it out.

When approached by a bear at Katmai I always kept two thoughts in mind ...
first, the good news, "no one has ever been killed by a bear at Katmai" even
though thousands of people visit Brooks Camp or fish the streams and bear
encounters are commonplace. The bad news was "remember Michio Hoshino", the
great Japanese nature photographer who knew far more about bears than I do.
Michio was killed and partially eaten in Kamchatka (Russia) a couple years ago
by the local version of brown bears.

A couple days ago I heard on the news while traveling that bears had killed two
people in Katmai. My first thought was for my friend Howard who works at
Brooks as a Ranger and stays off-season for a month to assist the bear
biologists in their field work, but instead it was a well-known character who
camped with the bears in the wilderness for the past 13 years, writing a very
interesting book about his experiences ... Timothy Treadwell and his
girlfriend/companion.

Treadwell took a lot of chances and has done things like pet the bears or sleep
curled up beside them. He has a lot of experience and was quoted as saying the
bears were harmless and "party animals" at heart. But it only takes one bear
to turn your world up-side down and he met that bear and lost. I saw a TV
special on Tim recently where a bear was stalking his campsite with menace and
he finally said "I've got to charge the bear and show him who's boss", which he
did, running at the bear screaming and waving his arms. The bear fled but I
wondered at the time how many times he could get away with that.

Next time I'm in Katmai, probably next September, I'll be a lot more cautious.

Here are links to news stories about the attacks or go to Google news and enter
"Katmai bear attack Treadwell" for reams of info.

breaking news, a video recorder recovered from the site has the sounds of the
actual mauling (at least the first 6 minutes) ...
http://www.news-miner.com/Stories/0,...686848,00.html

Be careful out there.

Bill



RSD99 October 9th 03 07:30 PM

Fatal bear attack in Katmai National Park
 
Yes ...

The story "made the evening news" on a couple of TV networks last night, complete with
some video of the remains of Treadwell's camp.

The LA Times also had multiarticle coverage ... for a story of this nature the coverage
was quite extensive.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,7782493.story

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...eadlines-calif
ornia

Treadwell just may have become a little too complacent ... bears are - after all - wild
animals ... and used to being the king of the hill!








"Bill Hilton" wrote in message
...
I've photographed Alaskan brown bears in Katmai the past couple of years at
Brooks Camp, which is a wonderful place to get close to them.

Several times I've come across bears on the trails at short range (even though
I always make noise to warn them) and a couple of times they've approached to
within a few yards while I photographed. Last fall one bear approached to
within 10 yards and I got my best shot, then kept coming to within 5 yards (the
point where my lens would no longer close focus) before veering off. I was
standing in knee deep rushing water with heavy gear and had limited options so
just rode it out.

When approached by a bear at Katmai I always kept two thoughts in mind ...
first, the good news, "no one has ever been killed by a bear at Katmai" even
though thousands of people visit Brooks Camp or fish the streams and bear
encounters are commonplace. The bad news was "remember Michio Hoshino", the
great Japanese nature photographer who knew far more about bears than I do.
Michio was killed and partially eaten in Kamchatka (Russia) a couple years ago
by the local version of brown bears.

A couple days ago I heard on the news while traveling that bears had killed two
people in Katmai. My first thought was for my friend Howard who works at
Brooks as a Ranger and stays off-season for a month to assist the bear
biologists in their field work, but instead it was a well-known character who
camped with the bears in the wilderness for the past 13 years, writing a very
interesting book about his experiences ... Timothy Treadwell and his
girlfriend/companion.

Treadwell took a lot of chances and has done things like pet the bears or sleep
curled up beside them. He has a lot of experience and was quoted as saying the
bears were harmless and "party animals" at heart. But it only takes one bear
to turn your world up-side down and he met that bear and lost. I saw a TV
special on Tim recently where a bear was stalking his campsite with menace and
he finally said "I've got to charge the bear and show him who's boss", which he
did, running at the bear screaming and waving his arms. The bear fled but I
wondered at the time how many times he could get away with that.

Next time I'm in Katmai, probably next September, I'll be a lot more cautious.

Here are links to news stories about the attacks or go to Google news and enter
"Katmai bear attack Treadwell" for reams of info.

breaking news, a video recorder recovered from the site has the sounds of the
actual mauling (at least the first 6 minutes) ...
http://www.news-miner.com/Stories/0,...686848,00.html

Be careful out there.

Bill





Gordon Niessen October 10th 03 06:54 PM

Fatal bear attack in Katmai National Park
 
As Sigfield and Roy also found out with captive Tigers. Respect the
fact theat they are wild animals and very powerful. It is unfortunate
that the start of the attack was not captured, so others could learn
from their mistake about what can start an attack.


--
Gordon Niessen

[email protected] October 10th 03 09:21 PM

Fatal bear attack in Katmai National Park
 
On 10 Oct 2003 12:54:34 -0500, "Gordon Niessen"
wrote:

As Sigfield and Roy also found out with captive Tigers. Respect the
fact theat they are wild animals and very powerful. It is unfortunate
that the start of the attack was not captured, so others could learn
from their mistake about what can start an attack.

I think there mistake was in becoming too complacent.

Gregory W. Blank October 11th 03 02:44 AM

Fatal bear attack in Katmai National Park
 
In article ,
wrote:

On 10 Oct 2003 12:54:34 -0500, "Gordon Niessen"
wrote:

As Sigfield and Roy also found out with captive Tigers. Respect the
fact theat they are wild animals and very powerful. It is unfortunate
that the start of the attack was not captured, so others could learn
from their mistake about what can start an attack.

I think there mistake was in becoming too complacent.


Or maybe that tuna fish sandwich Roy eat before going on stage.

--


website:
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~gblank

Bill Hilton October 11th 03 04:05 AM

Fatal bear attack in Katmai National Park
 
An interesting article from 2001 on Treadwell, which seems prescient now.

http://www.alaska.com/akcom/western/...p-819757c.html

RSD99 October 11th 03 04:22 PM

Fatal bear attack in Katmai National Park
 
Interesting ... and prophetic ...



"Bill Hilton" wrote in message
...
An interesting article from 2001 on Treadwell, which seems prescient now.

http://www.alaska.com/akcom/western/...p-819757c.html




Scott Peterson October 12th 03 12:25 AM

Fatal bear attack in Katmai National Park
 
dy (Bill Hilton) wrote:

Treadwell took a lot of chances and has done things like pet the bears or sleep
curled up beside them. I saw a TV
special on Tim recently where a bear was stalking his campsite with menace and
he finally said "I've got to charge the bear and show him who's boss", which he
did, running at the bear screaming and waving his arms.


Hard to be too sympathetic about him. Apparently the park rangers had
repeatedly pleaded with him to keep his distance from the bears and
he'd refused. He and his girlfriend was in an area where firearms
were not allowed and there was no else one around to help when he got
in trouble.

He has a lot of experience and was quoted as saying the
bears were harmless and "party animals" at heart. But it only takes one bear
to turn your world up-side down and he met that bear and lost.


To me treating carnivorous wild animals that are bigger than you are
as harmless is like climbers arguing they can outwit gravity. Running
into a bad situation is a not a matter of if, but when. Just ask Roy
Horn.

Treadwell's "experience" was self-taught, which isn't always bad. But
apparently professionals wanted nothing to do with him because of the
chances they saw him taking, and most of them disagreed with a lot of
his opinions on their behavior.

The bear fled but I wondered at the time how many times he could get away with that.


They had to shoot one bear that was eating the body and another that
got too aggressive while they were removing it.



Scott Peterson


If vegetarians eat vegetables, what
do humanitarians eat?

Andy Harmer October 13th 03 10:56 PM

Fatal bear attack in Katmai National Park
 

"Gregory W. Blank" wrote in message
...
In article ,
wrote:

On 10 Oct 2003 12:54:34 -0500, "Gordon Niessen"
wrote:

As Sigfield and Roy also found out with captive Tigers. Respect the
fact theat they are wild animals and very powerful. It is unfortunate
that the start of the attack was not captured, so others could learn
from their mistake about what can start an attack.

I think there mistake was in becoming too complacent.


Or maybe that tuna fish sandwich Roy eat before going on stage.


Is it right that one of the tigers drove him to hospital?



[email protected] October 14th 03 02:28 AM

Fatal bear attack in Katmai National Park
 
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:56:50 +0000 (UTC), "Andy Harmer"
wrote:


"Gregory W. Blank" wrote in message
.. .
In article ,
wrote:

On 10 Oct 2003 12:54:34 -0500, "Gordon Niessen"
wrote:

As Sigfield and Roy also found out with captive Tigers. Respect the
fact theat they are wild animals and very powerful. It is unfortunate
that the start of the attack was not captured, so others could learn
from their mistake about what can start an attack.
I think there mistake was in becoming too complacent.


Or maybe that tuna fish sandwich Roy eat before going on stage.


Is it right that one of the tigers drove him to hospital?

Yes its right , it was the honorable thing to do after all!!


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