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Hi All,

I've posted the latest Foto Tip by Mark Alberhasky, a Nikon mentor and
international photography speaker:
http://www.dimagemaker.com/specials/fototips.php
It is the simple things we often forget.

Cheers,

Wayne

--
Wayne J. Cosshall
Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/
Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/

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On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 22:07:15 +1100, "Wayne J. Cosshall"
wrote:

I've posted the latest Foto Tip by Mark Alberhasky, a Nikon mentor and
international photography speaker:
http://www.dimagemaker.com/specials/fototips.php
It is the simple things we often forget.

So where's the tip?

All I get is a page full of ads from Google, a portrait of the "author"
and some Amazon ads.
--
Regards,

John Phillips
Sydney, Australia

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The tip John is how to drive more people to your site to pump up your hit
rate!!! ;-)

Agree with you that it has nothing to offer.

Duncan

"John Phillips" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 22:07:15 +1100, "Wayne J. Cosshall"
wrote:

I've posted the latest Foto Tip by Mark Alberhasky, a Nikon mentor and
international photography speaker:
http://www.dimagemaker.com/specials/fototips.php
It is the simple things we often forget.

So where's the tip?

All I get is a page full of ads from Google, a portrait of the "author"
and some Amazon ads.
--
Regards,

John Phillips
Sydney, Australia

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On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 20:20:38 +1100, John Phillips wrote:

I've posted the latest Foto Tip by Mark Alberhasky, a Nikon mentor and
international photography speaker:
http://www.dimagemaker.com/specials/fototips.php
It is the simple things we often forget.

So where's the tip?

All I get is a page full of ads from Google, a portrait of the "author"
and some Amazon ads.

There's a list of them just below the ad that's below the author's
portrait (both the ad and the portrait are the same size). Most web
browsers should show them if you scroll down the page slightly.
This isn't very hard to do unless your browser has no scroll bars or
is otherwise broken. If you scroll down a little bit, you should
see these articles (one actual link uncloaked):

11 Dec 06 - Checking The Time

13 Oct 06 - A Perspective on Lenses

5 Sept 06 - Get In Over Your Head
http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=675

The temptation to quit will be greatest just before you are about to succeed.

Give yourself permission to make great images

Break the rules

What is the hardest part about making a great image?

Looking Ahead

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If you scroll down, depending on the size of your browser window, you
will find a series of links to the tip articles he has presented so far.
If you want to go to the latest tip it is:
http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=806

Cheers,

Wayne

--
Wayne J. Cosshall
Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/
Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/

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On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 22:07:15 +1100, Wayne J. Cosshall wrote:

Hi All,

I've posted the latest Foto Tip by Mark Alberhasky, a Nikon mentor and
international photography speaker:
http://www.dimagemaker.com/specials/fototips.php
It is the simple things we often forget.

Cheers,

Wayne

IMHO a very poorly designed web site. The links look like normal text
instead of links, and the vital info is "below the fold".

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Wayne J. Cosshall wrote:
If you scroll down, depending on the size of your browser window, you
will find a series of links to the tip articles he has presented so far.
If you want to go to the latest tip it is:
http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=806

Cheers,

Wayne


Why not just post that the first time

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R.J Heath wrote:
Why not just post that the first time

It never occurred to me that someone couldn't scroll down. Besides, if
you haven't read any of Mark's columns before, the way I posted people
would see not only that post but his others.

You can't please everyone.

Cheers,

Wayne

--
Wayne J. Cosshall
Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/
Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/

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On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 11:41:57 +1100, Wayne J. Cosshall wrote:

R.J Heath wrote:
Why not just post that the first time

It never occurred to me that someone couldn't scroll down. Besides, if
you haven't read any of Mark's columns before, the way I posted people
would see not only that post but his others.

You can't please everyone.

Cheers,

Wayne

Two prime tenets of web site design:

1) make the links look like links
2) put the material of primary interest 'above the fold'.

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ray wrote:
Two prime tenets of web site design:

1) make the links look like links
2) put the material of primary interest 'above the fold'.


I can tell you that I am constantly considering changes to the site, and
will take the preceding comments on board, as I always do. However, if
you have actually designed a site with as much content as my one has,
you'll know that there are a lot of issues in the design of the site,
many of which pull you in opposite directions. Moving away from the
'traditional' blue underlined links is not something you do lightly.
Many sites have moved away from this, to a greater or lesser extent,
such as:
http://www.theage.com.au/
and
http://www.nytimes.com/
Others have not. It is, in fact, all a juggling act, usually informed by
assessments of the types of users visiting a site and their level of
proficiency.

There is the rollover change of color when you hover the cursor, but I
will change that to include an underline so it is even clearer.

The specifics of Mark's page are flexible. I put the cruise ad in to
support Mark. Without it the links to the individual columns comes up
much higher. I think I'll move it below the column links.

Cheers,

Wayne

--
Wayne J. Cosshall
Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/
Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/

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On 12/16/06 1:36 AM, "Wayne J. Cosshall" wrote:

Many sites have moved away from this, to a greater or lesser extent,
such as:
http://www.theage.com.au/
and
http://www.nytimes.com/

They put underlines when you mouse over, which lets browsers know it is a
link. Your site changes the color to indicate a link. That is fine with me,
I just think that you can't please everyone all the time. :)

-- Rick
http://fixupix.tripod.com/
http://www.backprint.com/cnypix

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ray wrote:

Two prime tenets of web site design:

1) make the links look like links
2) put the material of primary interest 'above the fold'.

3) Get rid of all the crap!


James McNangle

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James McNangle wrote:
ray wrote:

Two prime tenets of web site design:

1) make the links look like links
2) put the material of primary interest 'above the fold'.

3) Get rid of all the crap!


James McNangle
Define crap?

--
Wayne J. Cosshall
Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/
Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/

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Wayne J. Cosshall wrote:
James McNangle wrote:
ray wrote:

Two prime tenets of web site design:

1) make the links look like links
2) put the material of primary interest 'above the fold'.

3) Get rid of all the crap!


James McNangle
Define crap?

your website layout for starters

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On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 09:43:52 +1100
James McNangle wrote:

ray wrote:

Two prime tenets of web site design:

1) make the links look like links
2) put the material of primary interest 'above the fold'.

3) Get rid of all the crap!


James McNangle
Chrikey !!!
I'm back to a blank screen.

--
Neil
Reverse 'ra' and delete 'l'.

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ray wrote:
Two prime tenets of web site design:

1) make the links look like links
2) put the material of primary interest 'above the fold'.

Ok, Ray, I am trying all links with underlines. Personally I find it
makes things more cluttered but I am willing to give it a try. I am
happy for meaningful feedback, such as yours was.

I've also changed the main page for Mark's column.

Cheers,

Wayne

--
Wayne J. Cosshall
Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/
Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/

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Links only have to reveal themselves when a cursor is moved over it and so
the decoration need not be visual until required. Thus maintaining a neat
and visually appealing design.

Duncan


"Wayne J. Cosshall" wrote in message
...
ray wrote:
Two prime tenets of web site design:

1) make the links look like links
2) put the material of primary interest 'above the fold'.

Ok, Ray, I am trying all links with underlines. Personally I find it makes
things more cluttered but I am willing to give it a try. I am happy for
meaningful feedback, such as yours was.

I've also changed the main page for Mark's column.

Cheers,

Wayne

--
Wayne J. Cosshall
Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/
Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/

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"Wayne J. Cosshall" wrote in message
...
ray wrote:
Two prime tenets of web site design:

1) make the links look like links
2) put the material of primary interest 'above the fold'.

Ok, Ray, I am trying all links with underlines. Personally I find it
makes things more cluttered but I am willing to give it a try. I am
happy for meaningful feedback, such as yours was.

I've also changed the main page for Mark's column.

I'm gonna weigh in here - I had a brief look at Wayne's site, and I can
appreciate why people might perceive it as "cluttered", but it has nothing
to do with whether links are underlined or not, rather it's to do with the
basics of page layout and typography. What is clear is that while Wayne
might be a good photographer, he's not a graphic/web designer.

Fundamentally, what the site layout lacks is the correct amount "air" around
text, and poor site layout that lacks the structural signals that users
expect to see. That said, while I use the term "poor" in referring to some
aspects, it's not to say his isn't a good site - it has a great deal of
valuable content.

A full analysis would take up way too much space, but broadly, the left and
right columns are an un-structured parade of links - there's just too much
to take in. The left is the worst - it needs to be broken down into a couple
of easily understandable sub-groups. Good hierarchical structure draws
people in deeper, whereas the "flat" structure presented is overwhelming.

Also, it strikes me that the site needs more of a real magazine structure as
opposed to a literal collection of articles sorted by category - ie. you can
have that, but presenting the content with the headline "Articles in the
category Audio" makes it seem like you're doing a series of database
searches, which you are, but it can be presented in a less literal manner.
Just changing the headline to "Audio Articles" and losing the "Articles reco
rds 1-20 of 28" from the top (it could go at the bottom next to the result
navigation) would be a good start.

The centre column is also a bit of a mess. Any photographic site, which is
fundamentally all about *pictures*, that starts with a paragraph crushed up
the top that delves immediately into how to make the site more "usable" is
an immediate admission that the site might be a bit tough to use.

It should start with a killer pic sitting clear and clean - the IR one at
the moment is fine, but surrounded by a mix of text sizes and weights
detracts from its impact.

My suggestion would be to sit down with a good web designer with a proven
track record in this kind of site and CMS software, and re-work the
templates to reflect solid page layout principles, and let them take a fresh
look at the structure and see if it can't be re-organised in a simpler, more
accessible style.

As I said, lots of great content, but the manner in which it's presented
makes the sheer mass of information seem overwhelming.

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"Wayne J. Cosshall" wrote:

James McNangle wrote:
.......
3) Get rid of all the crap!


Define crap?

Perhaps the clue to the problem with your web site is contained in the line "The
online magazine and reference site for photography, graphic design, digital art,
Web design, video, illustration and image creation." Any one of these subjects
would be quite sufficient for a single web site, but you have them all together,
all mixed up in a horrendous jumble. And, even worse, this horrendous jumble is
reproduced on every page. About the only thing I can say in favour of the site
is that it doesn't sing or dance.

Consider the page http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=799.

This is titled "A day of shooting with my Infrared converted Canon 350D". By
the time someone gets to this page all they want to see is what results you have
managed to get. But what do they get?

On the left, a column 160 pixels wide, containing a plague of totally irrelevant
links. On the right, another column 160 pixels wide, containing another plague
of equally irrelevant links. In the middle a couple of ads, then an
introduction, and yet another column 160 pixels wide, containing yet another
plague of irrelevant links. Below this we finally get to the demonstration
photos, all 450 pixels wide.

If you threw out all this rubbish, or sorted it into categories, with the
material relevant to each category on a separate page, so that this page only
displayed the actual test photos and your comments on them, you could make the
pictures much bigger, so that the viewer could really see what you are on about,
without being distracted by a whole heap of totally irrelevant crap.


James McNangle

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James McNangle wrote:

Perhaps the clue to the problem with your web site is contained in the line "The
online magazine and reference site for photography, graphic design, digital art,
Web design, video, illustration and image creation." Any one of these subjects
would be quite sufficient for a single web site, but you have them all together,
all mixed up in a horrendous jumble. And, even worse, this horrendous jumble is
reproduced on every page. About the only thing I can say in favour of the site
is that it doesn't sing or dance.

Consider the page http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=799.

This is titled "A day of shooting with my Infrared converted Canon 350D". By
the time someone gets to this page all they want to see is what results you have
managed to get. But what do they get?

On the left, a column 160 pixels wide, containing a plague of totally irrelevant
links. On the right, another column 160 pixels wide, containing another plague
of equally irrelevant links. In the middle a couple of ads, then an
introduction, and yet another column 160 pixels wide, containing yet another
plague of irrelevant links. Below this we finally get to the demonstration
photos, all 450 pixels wide.

If you threw out all this rubbish, or sorted it into categories, with the
material relevant to each category on a separate page, so that this page only
displayed the actual test photos and your comments on them, you could make the
pictures much bigger, so that the viewer could really see what you are on about,
without being distracted by a whole heap of totally irrelevant crap.


James McNangle

Ok, I get your point, though i can't help thinking you really don't need
to be so rude about it.

I am considering a redesign of the site and I'll take this onboard.

Wayne

--
Wayne J. Cosshall
Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/
Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/

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Thanks Duncan and Poxy for taking the time to reply meaningfully.

The challenge with a site with so much content is to strike a balance
between showing what is there and making it easy to find. It seems I
have struck the wrong balance, so I will go back and reconsider the site
design and see what i can come up with.

Cheers,

Wayne

--
Wayne J. Cosshall
Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/
Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/

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On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 23:57:55 +1100, "Wayne J. Cosshall"
wrote:

Ok, I get your point, though i can't help thinking you really don't need
to be so rude about it.

Rude? I didn't see anything rude.

It seems that perhaps you have a problem with your overly cluttered
page's content being called "crap" but really, to the visitor, that's
exactly what it is. It's cluttering up the page and making it very
hard for them to find any valuable content.

Frankly, I find it very ironic that your site claims to be a reference
site for "Web design" given the site's own very poor design.

jc

--

"The nice thing about a mare is you get to ride a lot
of different horses without having to own that many."
~ Eileen Morgan of The Mare's Nest, PA

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JC Dill wrote:

Rude? I didn't see anything rude.

It seems that perhaps you have a problem with your overly cluttered
page's content being called "crap" but really, to the visitor, that's
exactly what it is. It's cluttering up the page and making it very
hard for them to find any valuable content.

Frankly, I find it very ironic that your site claims to be a reference
site for "Web design" given the site's own very poor design.

jc

I think anyone who has worked as hard as I have on the site might find
the word crap rude.

Anyway, anyone here who has actually designed a web site with so much
content will know it is a tough balancing act. For example, I've been
criticized for having the usability tip message at the top of the home
page, yet I have had a good number of emails from people thanking me for
putting it there as they did not know this and it has helped them not
just with my site but many others. You can't suit everyone.

My priority with the redesign of the site (which is the current design)
was to put 'above the fold' enough indications of other content on the
site so that if people came straight into an article page, they could
see that there was much more available. Hence the article categories and
types down the left, for example, and the recent articles list on the
article pages. It has grown and evolved and, as people have pointed out,
become cluttered. I suspect that if you ran a similar site such a thing
might also happen.

It is clearly time for a redesign, and I was heading towards it before
this thread started. It has been clear for some time that the article
page, for example, needed more width for the actual content so I could
use larger pictures. I am also considering a home page design which
allows me to highlight certain 'hot' content whilst also providing easy
access to other parts of the site. Plus I've wanted to add a search page
for some time, for example. Part of this process is looking at how other
similar sites have done it and part is thinking about what is most
important, etc.

Anyway, there should be a new design ready in January.

Cheers,

Wayne

--
Wayne J. Cosshall
Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/
Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/

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Wayne J. Cosshall wrote:
JC Dill wrote:

Rude? I didn't see anything rude.

It seems that perhaps you have a problem with your overly cluttered
page's content being called "crap" but really, to the visitor,
that's
exactly what it is. It's cluttering up the page and making it very
hard for them to find any valuable content.

Frankly, I find it very ironic that your site claims to be a
reference site for "Web design" given the site's own very poor
design. jc

I think anyone who has worked as hard as I have on the site might
find
the word crap rude.

Anyway, anyone here who has actually designed a web site with so
much
content will know it is a tough balancing act ...

snip

Anyway, there should be a new design ready in January.

Cheers,

Wayne

I think you should tell the crap-sayers to take a hike. You got to
figure anyone who is serious about taking advantage of your valuable
content will be willing to wade through chest-high crap to do so. They
just have to trust you that it is in there somewhere, and be
persistent; no other investment required. I mean after all, you are
offering important material all at your own expense, right? Why? I
wonder.

Here's another site with a lot of content, and it's clear the
designer* doesn't care if a casual visitor sees crap before finding
whatever jewels are distributed within it. Of course it's apparent
he's not attempting to be all things to all enquirers on any given
subject, either. It's just a friendly amateur offering a casual stroll
and (he hopes) pleasant experience.
http://home.san.rr.com/fsheff/index.html

--
*Frank ess
I'm rubber and you're glue,
it bounces off me and sticks to you.
-- McLeod

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"Wayne J. Cosshall" wrote:

Ok, I get your point, though i can't help thinking you really don't need
to be so rude about it.

I am considering a redesign of the site and I'll take this onboard.

Good. I assume that you hope that people will come to your web site regularly,
but in its present form I find it quite repellent.

The biggest problems with it are that you try to carry all your baggage with
you, all the time, and you do not appear to have made any effort to sort it
logically.

I would suggest that the home page should carry a statement of what you are
trying to achieve on the site, together with a small number of links to
subsidiary pages for each major topic. These again should contain a statement
of purpose, together with links to pages covering particular aspects of the
topic. If you must carry advertisements, these should be placed so they do not
distract from the main topic of the page, and a particular page should only
carry advertisements relative to the subject of the page.

I would also suggest that you ask yourself what you really want to cover on your
site, and concentrate on those subjects.

You may like to have a look at http://www.cybec.com.au/, where I have tried to
put these principles into practice. Some of my holiday photos are shown at
http://www.corybas.com/Albums/Holidays.htm

James McNangle

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Don't spend too much time redesigning, content is even more important.
Frankly I love your site and find it really useful.

Bill



"Wayne J. Cosshall" wrote in message
...
JC Dill wrote:

Rude? I didn't see anything rude. It seems that perhaps you have a
problem with your overly cluttered
page's content being called "crap" but really, to the visitor, that's
exactly what it is. It's cluttering up the page and making it very
hard for them to find any valuable content.

Frankly, I find it very ironic that your site claims to be a reference
site for "Web design" given the site's own very poor design.

jc

I think anyone who has worked as hard as I have on the site might find the
word crap rude.

Anyway, anyone here who has actually designed a web site with so much
content will know it is a tough balancing act. For example, I've been
criticized for having the usability tip message at the top of the home
page, yet I have had a good number of emails from people thanking me for
putting it there as they did not know this and it has helped them not just
with my site but many others. You can't suit everyone.

My priority with the redesign of the site (which is the current design)
was to put 'above the fold' enough indications of other content on the
site so that if people came straight into an article page, they could see
that there was much more available. Hence the article categories and types
down the left, for example, and the recent articles list on the article
pages. It has grown and evolved and, as people have pointed out, become
cluttered. I suspect that if you ran a similar site such a thing might
also happen.

It is clearly time for a redesign, and I was heading towards it before
this thread started. It has been clear for some time that the article
page, for example, needed more width for the actual content so I could use
larger pictures. I am also considering a home page design which allows me
to highlight certain 'hot' content whilst also providing easy access to
other parts of the site. Plus I've wanted to add a search page for some
time, for example. Part of this process is looking at how other similar
sites have done it and part is thinking about what is most important, etc.

Anyway, there should be a new design ready in January.

Cheers,

Wayne

--
Wayne J. Cosshall
Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/
Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/

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On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 08:56:29 +1100, "Wayne J. Cosshall"
wrote:

I think anyone who has worked as hard as I have on the site might find
the word crap rude.

How hard someone has worked on something often has little relationship
to the outcome. Lots of art is crap. Lots of new homes are crap.
Lots of websites are crap. I've been in fancy-smanchy restaurants
where a chef labored to put together some pretentious dish that
doesn't work and the result is crap. And ObPhoto - many photos are
crap too.

When you put your work out there, you are going to get feedback (no
matter if you ask for it or not). If you get a lot of feedback that
says your work is not good, then that's how it is. Shooting the
messenger isn't going to magically make your work better.

jc

--

"The nice thing about a mare is you get to ride a lot
of different horses without having to own that many."
~ Eileen Morgan of The Mare's Nest, PA

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On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:52:58 -0800, JC Dill offered her own crappy
advice:

I think anyone who has worked as hard as I have on the site might find
the word crap rude.

How hard someone has worked on something often has little relationship
to the outcome. Lots of art is crap. Lots of new homes are crap.
Lots of websites are crap. I've been in fancy-smanchy restaurants
where a chef labored to put together some pretentious dish that
doesn't work and the result is crap. And ObPhoto - many photos are
crap too.

When you put your work out there, you are going to get feedback (no
matter if you ask for it or not). If you get a lot of feedback that
says your work is not good, then that's how it is. Shooting the
messenger isn't going to magically make your work better.

No, it won't. But advice is more likely to be followed if spoken
by messengers whose mouths aren't filled with crap. That you think
the messenger was shot (or attacked or suffered some ignominious
wound) is rather bizarre. Photographers need a certain amount of
vision, and if you were unable to see any rudeness in the advice
given to Wayne, your vision is poorer than most.

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"James McNangle" wrote in message
...
"Wayne J. Cosshall" wrote:

Ok, I get your point, though i can't help thinking you really don't need
to be so rude about it.

I am considering a redesign of the site and I'll take this onboard.

Good. I assume that you hope that people will come to your web site
regularly,
but in its present form I find it quite repellent.

The biggest problems with it are that you try to carry all your baggage
with
you, all the time, and you do not appear to have made any effort to sort
it
logically.

I would suggest that the home page should carry a statement of what you
are
trying to achieve on the site, together with a small number of links to
subsidiary pages for each major topic. These again should contain a
statement
of purpose, together with links to pages covering particular aspects of
the
topic. If you must carry advertisements, these should be placed so they
do not
distract from the main topic of the page, and a particular page should
only
carry advertisements relative to the subject of the page.

I would also suggest that you ask yourself what you really want to cover
on your
site, and concentrate on those subjects.

You may like to have a look at http://www.cybec.com.au/, where I have
tried to
put these principles into practice. Some of my holiday photos are shown
at
http://www.corybas.com/Albums/Holidays.htm

James McNangle

Speaking of your overly pretentious dictates (and yes, rude) above and those
holiday photos mentioned, whoever put up the Victoria BC photos should, at
least, get the name of Butchart Gardens spelled correctly!!
I would assume you would consider correct place names part of the
non-"repellent" atmosphere you espouse.
Bob

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"Robert Brace" wrote:

Speaking of your overly pretentious dictates (and yes, rude) above and those
holiday photos mentioned, whoever put up the Victoria BC photos should, at
least, get the name of Butchart Gardens spelled correctly!!

Thank you. I think they have all been corrected.

I would assume you would consider correct place names part of the
non-"repellent" atmosphere you espouse.

Desirable, yes. But these photos are intended to be enjoyed as a collection of
holiday snaps, not as a PhD thesis.


James McNangle

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Thanks Frank,

I'm feeling less bruised now :)

Cheers,

Wayne

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Bill, thank you very much. I'm glad some people like it.

Still a redesign is due, but don't worry, there a lot more content
coming, plus more competitions for January.

Cheers,

Wayne

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Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/
Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/

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"James McNangle" wrote in message
...
"Robert Brace" wrote:

Speaking of your overly pretentious dictates (and yes, rude) above and
those
holiday photos mentioned, whoever put up the Victoria BC photos should,
at
least, get the name of Butchart Gardens spelled correctly!!

Thank you. I think they have all been corrected.

I would assume you would consider correct place names part of the
non-"repellent" atmosphere you espouse.

Desirable, yes. But these photos are intended to be enjoyed as a
collection of
holiday snaps, not as a PhD thesis.


James McNangle

An appropriate distinction, I'm sure!
Bob