Has Sony/Pentax/Canon fixed their non-working anti-dust systems yet?
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Has Sony/Pentax/Canon fixed their non-working anti-dust systems yet?
Yes, well the Pentax system works for normal everyday sort of dust that I have so far encountered. Not sure that they work when the test is not real life, saw one where they left the sensor exposed for long periods to get them "nice and dusty", hardly real world stuff. |
Has Sony/Pentax/Canon fixed their non-working anti-dust systems yet?
Pete D wrote:
Yes, well the Pentax system works for normal everyday sort of dust that I have so far encountered. Not sure that they work when the test is not real life, saw one where they left the sensor exposed for long periods to get them "nice and dusty", hardly real world stuff. Since there is no real dust problem in the real world that could be fixed by a dust shaker, there is no need to introduce them except for some nervous marketing dudes. And since dust shakers are mostly marketing ploys, it does not matter how well they work, as long as they are on the feature list. -Wolfgang |
Has Sony/Pentax/Canon fixed their non-working anti-dust systems yet?
On Sep 8, 5:22 pm, Wolfgang Weisselberg
wrote: Pete D wrote: Yes, well the Pentax system works for normal everyday sort of dust that I have so far encountered. Not sure that they work when the test is not real life, saw one where they left the sensor exposed for long periods to get them "nice and dusty", hardly real world stuff. Since there is no real dust problem in the real world that could be fixed by a dust shaker, there is no need to introduce them except for some nervous marketing dudes. Yes, certainly dust is no concern at all. Which of course is why companies can charge $100 for a brush to remove it. Loupes to see it in $300 kits, etc. Olympus dust removal works, which is what galls users of brands that implemented useless systems. With those cameras, it IS a useless add- on that is just another system in their cameras to break. |
Has Sony/Pentax/Canon fixed their non-working anti-dust systems yet?
"RichA" wrote in message oups.com... On Sep 8, 5:22 pm, Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote: Pete D wrote: Yes, well the Pentax system works for normal everyday sort of dust that I have so far encountered. Not sure that they work when the test is not real life, saw one where they left the sensor exposed for long periods to get them "nice and dusty", hardly real world stuff. Since there is no real dust problem in the real world that could be fixed by a dust shaker, there is no need to introduce them except for some nervous marketing dudes. Yes, certainly dust is no concern at all. Which of course is why companies can charge $100 for a brush to remove it. Loupes to see it in $300 kits, etc. Olympus dust removal works, which is what galls users of brands that implemented useless systems. With those cameras, it IS a useless add- on that is just another system in their cameras to break. And of course because you have actually tested all cameras with these systems you are the authority on their use. Seriously Rich you are the worlds biggest freaking moron and I seriously wonder why the freaking hell I ever removed you from my killfile list. Back on the list you go dimwit. |
Has Sony/Pentax/Canon fixed their non-working anti-dust systems yet?
RichA wrote:
On Sep 8, 5:22 pm, Wolfgang Weisselberg Since there is no real dust problem in the real world that could be fixed by a dust shaker, there is no need to introduce them except for some nervous marketing dudes. Yes, certainly dust is no concern at all. Yep. Which of course is why companies can charge $100 for a brush to remove it. Loupes to see it in $300 kits, etc. There's a sucker born every second, and the same type of people buy de-oxygenated, magnetically aligned speaker cables at $$$ per metre. And the'll pay $$$$ if one did dip the cable into the blood of a black rooster, slaughtered at midnight under the full moon by cutting it's throat with a silver knife in a circle or 5 black candles. If you use that as proof that ordinary speaker cables are a concern, everyone will call you a moron. Since you use the very same logic, I call you a moron. Especially as there are much cheaper, just as good, solutions, which you choose to overlook. After all, why spoil a frothing rant with facts? Olympus dust removal works, which is what galls users of brands that implemented useless systems. With those cameras, it IS a useless add- on that is just another system in their cameras to break. My camera does not even _have_ dust removal system. So how could I be galled? Blowing the sensor every 6 months and swabbing it every 2 years does not amount to a problem, no matter what you think. BTW, the Olympus uses plastic. -Wolfgang |
Has Sony/Pentax/Canon fixed their non-working anti-dust systems yet?
"Wolfgang Weisselberg" wrote in message ... RichA wrote: On Sep 8, 5:22 pm, Wolfgang Weisselberg Since there is no real dust problem in the real world that could be fixed by a dust shaker, there is no need to introduce them except for some nervous marketing dudes. Yes, certainly dust is no concern at all. Yep. Which of course is why companies can charge $100 for a brush to remove it. Loupes to see it in $300 kits, etc. There's a sucker born every second, and the same type of people buy de-oxygenated, magnetically aligned speaker cables at $$$ per metre. And the'll pay $$$$ if one did dip the cable into the blood of a black rooster, slaughtered at midnight under the full moon by cutting it's throat with a silver knife in a circle or 5 black candles. If you use that as proof that ordinary speaker cables are a concern, everyone will call you a moron. Since you use the very same logic, I call you a moron. Especially as there are much cheaper, just as good, solutions, which you choose to overlook. After all, why spoil a frothing rant with facts? Olympus dust removal works, which is what galls users of brands that implemented useless systems. With those cameras, it IS a useless add- on that is just another system in their cameras to break. My camera does not even _have_ dust removal system. So how could I be galled? Blowing the sensor every 6 months and swabbing it every 2 years does not amount to a problem, no matter what you think. BTW, the Olympus uses plastic. -Wolfgang Agree with every point except that one of my D-SLRs does have dust removal and I expect that yours has a special coating to stop particles sticking to the sensor. Oh and yes, Rich is a moron, absolutely, a pretty stupid one actually and you can quote me on that, repeatedly if you like. Cheers. Pete |
Has Sony/Pentax/Canon fixed their non-working anti-dust systems yet? -- What Pentax anti-dust system?
RichA wrote:
Has Sony/Pentax/Canon fixed their non-working anti-dust systems yet? Well, I don'' know about Sony or Canon, but the Pentax K10D doesn't have an "anti-dust" system. It does have a two-stage 'dust reduction' system (special coating and sensor shake) which helps to reduce the problem of dust on the image sensor. And, in that regard, it works very well indeed. noname |
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