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Shooting Sunrises
The other day while I was on the way to work I stopped to shoot a sunrise
that I had noticed over the last couple of years, looked particularly interesting this time of the year. As I top a certain hillcrest, in the valley usually is a light fog, with tree covered hilly terrain and the sun is a huge red dot filtered through the haze instead of its usual bright white. I have tried several times to capture this scene, but I can't seem to get it right. What camera settings or filters do I need? I have been using Fuji Superia 400 cause that's what I have a supply of, a Nikon N90s and f stops from wide open to the other extreme. I have tried to focus on the trees in the distance and using the focus lock, reframe the scene and shoot. It just doesn't give me the colors I am seeing with my eyes. What do I need to do differently? -------- David E. nitehawk01 at verizon dot net |
David Edwards wrote:
The other day while I was on the way to work I stopped to shoot a sunrise that I had noticed over the last couple of years, looked particularly interesting this time of the year. As I top a certain hillcrest, in the valley usually is a light fog, with tree covered hilly terrain and the sun is a huge red dot filtered through the haze instead of its usual bright white. I have tried several times to capture this scene, but I can't seem to get it right. What camera settings or filters do I need? I have been using Fuji Superia 400 cause that's what I have a supply of, a Nikon N90s and f stops from wide open to the other extreme. I have tried to focus on the trees in the distance and using the focus lock, reframe the scene and shoot. It just doesn't give me the colors I am seeing with my eyes. What do I need to do differently? -------- David E. nitehawk01 at verizon dot net If you are judging the color by prints from an ordinary processing lab, then you can bet the printing filtration is set to average the scene to grey. A sunrise consisting of red/orange clouds etc. will have most of the color filtered out automatically. You might have to try a better lab. Colin D. |
David Edwards wrote:
The other day while I was on the way to work I stopped to shoot a sunrise that I had noticed over the last couple of years, looked particularly interesting this time of the year. As I top a certain hillcrest, in the valley usually is a light fog, with tree covered hilly terrain and the sun is a huge red dot filtered through the haze instead of its usual bright white. I have tried several times to capture this scene, but I can't seem to get it right. What camera settings or filters do I need? I have been using Fuji Superia 400 cause that's what I have a supply of, a Nikon N90s and f stops from wide open to the other extreme. I have tried to focus on the trees in the distance and using the focus lock, reframe the scene and shoot. It just doesn't give me the colors I am seeing with my eyes. What do I need to do differently? -------- David E. nitehawk01 at verizon dot net If you are judging the color by prints from an ordinary processing lab, then you can bet the printing filtration is set to average the scene to grey. A sunrise consisting of red/orange clouds etc. will have most of the color filtered out automatically. You might have to try a better lab. Colin D. |
"David Edwards" writes:
SNIP stops from wide open to the other extreme. I have tried to focus on the trees in the distance and using the focus lock, reframe the scene and shoot. It just doesn't give me the colors I am seeing with my eyes. What do I need to do differently? Well, I'm curious why you think 'focus' has any control over the colors you're seeing. One suggestion is to switch to a slide film just to see if the lab you're using for the prints is up to snuff. The other suggestion is to forget where you're focusing and start using your camera's meter to read the sun itself, then vary the exposure from the brightest to the darkest area in the scene. On one roll of slide film. I'd suggest Velvia 100, 36 exposure, and shooting every frame. Keep notes of what exposure you made for each shot. -- Philip Stripling | email to the replyto address is presumed Legal Assistance on the Web | spam and read later. email to philip@ http://www.PhilipStripling.com/ | my domain is read daily. |
"David Edwards" writes:
SNIP stops from wide open to the other extreme. I have tried to focus on the trees in the distance and using the focus lock, reframe the scene and shoot. It just doesn't give me the colors I am seeing with my eyes. What do I need to do differently? Well, I'm curious why you think 'focus' has any control over the colors you're seeing. One suggestion is to switch to a slide film just to see if the lab you're using for the prints is up to snuff. The other suggestion is to forget where you're focusing and start using your camera's meter to read the sun itself, then vary the exposure from the brightest to the darkest area in the scene. On one roll of slide film. I'd suggest Velvia 100, 36 exposure, and shooting every frame. Keep notes of what exposure you made for each shot. -- Philip Stripling | email to the replyto address is presumed Legal Assistance on the Web | spam and read later. email to philip@ http://www.PhilipStripling.com/ | my domain is read daily. |
"David Edwards" wrote in message news:h4Q%c.6248$5Y6.883@trnddc07...
First a GND filter would probably help a lot. Second switch to a more saturated film for print Porta 160VC for slide E100VS. Also, try bracketing over 1/2 and one stop. Jim *----------------------------------------------------------------* * Check-out my web site at: http://SwensonStudio.com * * landscape and travel photographs, featuring sunsets * *----------------------------------------------------------------* The other day while I was on the way to work I stopped to shoot a sunrise that I had noticed over the last couple of years, looked particularly interesting this time of the year. As I top a certain hillcrest, in the valley usually is a light fog, with tree covered hilly terrain and the sun is a huge red dot filtered through the haze instead of its usual bright white. I have tried several times to capture this scene, but I can't seem to get it right. What camera settings or filters do I need? I have been using Fuji Superia 400 cause that's what I have a supply of, a Nikon N90s and f stops from wide open to the other extreme. I have tried to focus on the trees in the distance and using the focus lock, reframe the scene and shoot. It just doesn't give me the colors I am seeing with my eyes. What do I need to do differently? -------- David E. nitehawk01 at verizon dot net |
"David Edwards" wrote in message news:h4Q%c.6248$5Y6.883@trnddc07...
First a GND filter would probably help a lot. Second switch to a more saturated film for print Porta 160VC for slide E100VS. Also, try bracketing over 1/2 and one stop. Jim *----------------------------------------------------------------* * Check-out my web site at: http://SwensonStudio.com * * landscape and travel photographs, featuring sunsets * *----------------------------------------------------------------* The other day while I was on the way to work I stopped to shoot a sunrise that I had noticed over the last couple of years, looked particularly interesting this time of the year. As I top a certain hillcrest, in the valley usually is a light fog, with tree covered hilly terrain and the sun is a huge red dot filtered through the haze instead of its usual bright white. I have tried several times to capture this scene, but I can't seem to get it right. What camera settings or filters do I need? I have been using Fuji Superia 400 cause that's what I have a supply of, a Nikon N90s and f stops from wide open to the other extreme. I have tried to focus on the trees in the distance and using the focus lock, reframe the scene and shoot. It just doesn't give me the colors I am seeing with my eyes. What do I need to do differently? -------- David E. nitehawk01 at verizon dot net |
"David Edwards" wrote in message
news:h4Q%c.6248$5Y6.883@trnddc07... The other day while I was on the way to work I stopped to shoot a sunrise that I had noticed over the last couple of years, looked particularly interesting this time of the year. As I top a certain hillcrest, in the valley usually is a light fog, with tree covered hilly terrain and the sun is a huge red dot filtered through the haze instead of its usual bright white. I have tried several times to capture this scene, but I can't seem to get it right. What camera settings or filters do I need? I have been using Fuji Superia 400 cause that's what I have a supply of, a Nikon N90s and f stops from wide open to the other extreme. I have tried to focus on the trees in the distance and using the focus lock, reframe the scene and shoot. It just doesn't give me the colors I am seeing with my eyes. What do I need to do differently? Use Fuji Velvia, a tripod, and bracket your shots. If you insist on print film, try Superia Reala or Kodak Portra VC (less contrast), use a tripod, and bracket your shots. You might be able to work in a graduated neutral density filter to control the luminance of the sky. Turn off your autofocus when shooting landscapes--it won't help a bit, and is a major annoyance! (unless you can't see!) -- Regards, Matt Clara www.mattclara.com |
"David Edwards" wrote in message
news:h4Q%c.6248$5Y6.883@trnddc07... The other day while I was on the way to work I stopped to shoot a sunrise that I had noticed over the last couple of years, looked particularly interesting this time of the year. As I top a certain hillcrest, in the valley usually is a light fog, with tree covered hilly terrain and the sun is a huge red dot filtered through the haze instead of its usual bright white. I have tried several times to capture this scene, but I can't seem to get it right. What camera settings or filters do I need? I have been using Fuji Superia 400 cause that's what I have a supply of, a Nikon N90s and f stops from wide open to the other extreme. I have tried to focus on the trees in the distance and using the focus lock, reframe the scene and shoot. It just doesn't give me the colors I am seeing with my eyes. What do I need to do differently? Use Fuji Velvia, a tripod, and bracket your shots. If you insist on print film, try Superia Reala or Kodak Portra VC (less contrast), use a tripod, and bracket your shots. You might be able to work in a graduated neutral density filter to control the luminance of the sky. Turn off your autofocus when shooting landscapes--it won't help a bit, and is a major annoyance! (unless you can't see!) -- Regards, Matt Clara www.mattclara.com |
Jim, I checked out your web page. Those sunsets, and sunrises with the red
cast is what I was trying to get. Maybe it was the processor. I will have to give your suggestions a try. Next year when my assignment rolls around again I will have some different things to try. Thanks for the tips. ------ David Edwards nitehawk01 at verizon dot net "Jim" wrote in message m... "David Edwards" wrote in message news:h4Q%c.6248$5Y6.883@trnddc07... First a GND filter would probably help a lot. Second switch to a more saturated film for print Porta 160VC for slide E100VS. Also, try bracketing over 1/2 and one stop. Jim *----------------------------------------------------------------* * Check-out my web site at: http://SwensonStudio.com * * landscape and travel photographs, featuring sunsets * *----------------------------------------------------------------* The other day while I was on the way to work I stopped to shoot a sunrise that I had noticed over the last couple of years, looked particularly interesting this time of the year. As I top a certain hillcrest, in the valley usually is a light fog, with tree covered hilly terrain and the sun is a huge red dot filtered through the haze instead of its usual bright white. I have tried several times to capture this scene, but I can't seem to get it right. What camera settings or filters do I need? I have been using Fuji Superia 400 cause that's what I have a supply of, a Nikon N90s and f stops from wide open to the other extreme. I have tried to focus on the trees in the distance and using the focus lock, reframe the scene and shoot. It just doesn't give me the colors I am seeing with my eyes. What do I need to do differently? -------- David E. nitehawk01 at verizon dot net |
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