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Millenium December 17th 03 09:19 PM

how to put the border around a headshot?
 
Ok I took this headshot with a digital camera. Now i would like to
know, how i can put the border around it where i can put the name and
the contact info... so it look like a professional headshot.
I have photoshop 8. any ideas please.

thanks

zeitgeist December 18th 03 04:43 AM

how to put the border around a headshot?
 


Ok I took this headshot with a digital camera. Now i would like to
know, how i can put the border around it where i can put the name and
the contact info... so it look like a professional headshot.
I have photoshop 8. any ideas please.


crop your headshot to 7.5 x 8.45. Open a blank file and make it an 8x10 at
whatever resolution you want, I usually use 300 dpi cause thats all most
printers really recognize even if it says 1440x2880.

re-res your headshot file to match your blank page so it should now say 7.5
x 8.45 at 300 pdi, now drag it to the new blank file and position it. add
your type at the bottom. flatten.

before you flatten you could hit the f/x link at the bottom of your layer's
pallet and give it a beveled edge or a stroked edge which will put a thin
red (or other color) line around the image area, way cool.

this reply is echoed to the z-prophoto mailing list at yahoogroups.com



Millenium December 18th 03 04:24 PM

how to put the border around a headshot?
 
HI

Can you explain this process with more details. I have no idea still
of what needs to be done. thanks you


"zeitgeist" wrote in message news:dgaEb.580674$Tr4.1558207@attbi_s03...
Ok I took this headshot with a digital camera. Now i would like to
know, how i can put the border around it where i can put the name and
the contact info... so it look like a professional headshot.
I have photoshop 8. any ideas please.


crop your headshot to 7.5 x 8.45. Open a blank file and make it an 8x10 at
whatever resolution you want, I usually use 300 dpi cause thats all most
printers really recognize even if it says 1440x2880.

re-res your headshot file to match your blank page so it should now say 7.5
x 8.45 at 300 pdi, now drag it to the new blank file and position it. add
your type at the bottom. flatten.

before you flatten you could hit the f/x link at the bottom of your layer's
pallet and give it a beveled edge or a stroked edge which will put a thin
red (or other color) line around the image area, way cool.

this reply is echoed to the z-prophoto mailing list at yahoogroups.com


JIM December 18th 03 04:28 PM

how to put the border around a headshot?
 
"Millenium" wrote in message
om...
Ok I took this headshot with a digital camera. Now i would like to
know, how i can put the border around it where i can put the name and
the contact info... so it look like a professional headshot.
I have photoshop 8. any ideas please.


You could just use the image resize options. First size the image down by
whatever border width amount you want then just manipulate the canvas size
to the finished size you want. Just be sure to set the canvas color first by
selecting the desired background color. You can then add text, etc..

Shoot'em up, bordered or not, Agfa, Fuji, Kodak and all the rest will love
you for it!!

Jim



J C December 18th 03 06:26 PM

how to put the border around a headshot?
 
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 04:43:53 GMT, "zeitgeist"
wrote:



I usually use 300 dpi cause thats all most
printers really recognize even if it says 1440x2880.


To the original poster, increase the canvas size of the image. Take a
look at how to do that in the manual; its on one of the PS menus,
something like Image/Canvas Size... to get even borders all around,
click the middle box in the image that is presented in the dialog box
that pops up.

To Zeitgeist, you should know that your statement above is actually
incorrect. The resolution of a digital image and the resolution with
which an inkjet prints are two different things. So there's actually a
better reason for not creating digital images over 300 dpi.


-- JC

Millenium December 19th 03 03:28 AM

how to put the border around a headshot?
 
I resized the pic, and added the white canvas to it at 8x10, now how i
put the border around the pic, to separate it from the white? and how
i add the text to the canvas?


thanks

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JIM December 20th 03 06:03 AM

how to put the border around a headshot?
 
"Millenium" wrote in message
om...
I resized the pic, and added the white canvas to it at 8x10, now how i
put the border around the pic, to separate it from the white? and how
i add the text to the canvas?


If your picture is smaller than the 8x10 canvas, the white area is the
border. In the tool selection area, select the 'T' for text. You can then
place the text box anywhere, on the white border or even on the picture
itself. Change font size and color as desired.

Jim



zeitgeist December 20th 03 06:05 AM

how to put the border around a headshot?
 

"Millenium" wrote in message
om...
HI

Can you explain this process with more details. I have no idea still
of what needs to be done. thanks you




do you know how to crop an image?

do you know how to set an image size?
do you know how to change canvas size?

do you have photoshop, or paintshop or any image editor?


Ok I took this headshot with a digital camera. Now i would like to
know, how i can put the border around it where i can put the name and
the contact info... so it look like a professional headshot.
I have photoshop 8. any ideas please.


crop your headshot to 7.5 x 8.45. Open a blank file and make it an

8x10 at
whatever resolution you want, I usually use 300 dpi cause thats all most
printers really recognize even if it says 1440x2880.

re-res your headshot file to match your blank page so it should now say

7.5
x 8.45 at 300 pdi, now drag it to the new blank file and position it.

add
your type at the bottom. flatten.

before you flatten you could hit the f/x link at the bottom of your

layer's
pallet and give it a beveled edge or a stroked edge which will put a

thin
red (or other color) line around the image area, way cool.

this reply is echoed to the z-prophoto mailing list at yahoogroups.com




Millenium December 23rd 03 04:01 PM

how to put the border around a headshot?
 
here is an example of the frame i want to put around my headshot.. any
idea of how to do it with photoshop 8?

http://www.graphicreproductions.com/4.htm
thankds

Millenium December 23rd 03 04:06 PM

how to put the border around a headshot?
 
here is what i want to do to my headshot

http://www.graphicreproductions.com/4.htm

any ideas of how to accomplish it. with photoshop 8?

J C December 23rd 03 08:41 PM

how to put the border around a headshot?
 
On 23 Dec 2003 08:01:11 -0800, (Millenium)
wrote:

here is an example of the frame i want to put around my headshot.. any
idea of how to do it with photoshop 8?

http://www.graphicreproductions.com/4.htm
thankds


There are several professional level, commercial PS plugins that have
100's or 1000's of frames. That looks like it might have been created
from one of those.

Alternatively, you could create the frame yourself. It is not that
hard. Let's see:

1. Create a new layer
2. Fill with black
3. Select center area, and delete it
4. Rough up the remaining edge area (by selecting/deleting sections,
adding white patches, etc)
5. Run some filters on the remaining border to rough it up some more.

Well... you get the idea.


-- JC

J C December 23rd 03 08:53 PM

how to put the border around a headshot?
 
On 18 Dec 2003 19:28:32 -0800, (Millenium)
wrote:

I resized the pic, and added the white canvas to it at 8x10, now how i
put the border around the pic, to separate it from the white? and how
i add the text to the canvas?


thanks



First, I should mention that if you have white area OUTSIDE the border
you're going to create then the file size of your image is
unnecessarily too big and your storage problem will mulitply as you
create more of these, exponentially so if you are doing these at high
resolution.

Second, about the text... Have you bothered to look that the text
tool? I generally find it to be pretty handy when I want to add TEXT.


-- JC

zeitgeist December 25th 03 02:47 AM

how to put the border around a headshot?
 

here is what i want to do to my headshot

http://www.graphicreproductions.com/4.htm

any ideas of how to accomplish it. with photoshop 8?



Most likely they bought a CD full of borders, that looks like what they used
to call a filed out negative carrier frame, a photog would literally take a
metal file to enlarge the image area around the negative, way out to the
edge of the sprockets, it was an arty look.

Now you can buy CD's full of various royalty free images of borders, that, a
4x5 type neg edge, various polaroid edge effects.

You can make your own, to get a deckle edge take a piece of paper with a
deckle edge and scan it, copy and rotate so you have four sides,

frankly I think you should keep it simple, if you were to talk to casting
agents, ad art directors, you'll find that they find such effects
distracting, even annoying.

what I sometimes do is make a dup layer, hit layer style and add a beveled
edge with inner or outer glow, that will give you a thin clean edge with no
attention getting distractions.

Its really rare that a fancy matting, underlay, overlay, pin stripe tape,
and arty borders actually improves an image. In PPA print competition you
will see it on a lot of prints, but any time it becomes as noticable as the
subject itself then the whole thing takes a hit in the score, it smells of
flop sweat, a desperation move to rescue a mediocre image that the submitter
had already spent a wad to make a print and retouch. It just doesn't sing,
so they start putting mattes and color tape edges hoping something might
fly.

Photoshop 8? geez, I'm still puttering around with 6.

here's some ideas...

if your target is an 8x10, then scale your image for, say 7 inches wide,
make another copy of the image that is 7.5 wide, now run a filter or two,
streak it, blur it, dapple, grain, swirl, whatever. hit image adjust and
curves or brightness and make it a step or two darker (or brighter) and drag
it on to the final canvas, then drop your main image, now you have a custom
border keyed to your image.




M77 December 29th 03 09:30 AM

how to put the border around a headshot?
 

"Millenium" wrote in message
om...
here is an example of the frame i want to put around my headshot.. any
idea of how to do it with photoshop 8?

http://www.graphicreproductions.com/4.htm
thankds


man, you other people are no help at all.



you need to size down your image to the size you want it. find a 'sloppy'
border like the one in the sample (you'll have to do your own searching for
those). increase the white canvas to 8x10, then drag over the black sloppy
and line it up (use 'scale'). add the text to the bottom and you're done.
for a genuine headshot, you will want the white canvas on the bottom to be
bigger than on the top (see your sample). reverse borders also look cool.
that is when you have a white sloppy and black large canvas around it.

and by the way, resolution on screen is rated in PIXELS per inch (ppi), not
dots (dpi), therefore you want your resolution set to 300ppi.



stan December 29th 03 07:58 PM

how to put the border around a headshot?
 


M77 wrote:

"Millenium" wrote in message
om...
here is an example of the frame i want to put around my headshot.. any
idea of how to do it with photoshop 8?

http://www.graphicreproductions.com/4.htm
thankds


man, you other people are no help at all.

you need to size down your image to the size you want it. find a 'sloppy'
border like the one in the sample (you'll have to do your own searching for
those). increase the white canvas to 8x10, then drag over the black sloppy
and line it up (use 'scale'). add the text to the bottom and you're done.
for a genuine headshot, you will want the white canvas on the bottom to be
bigger than on the top (see your sample). reverse borders also look cool.
that is when you have a white sloppy and black large canvas around it.

and by the way, resolution on screen is rated in PIXELS per inch (ppi), not
dots (dpi), therefore you want your resolution set to 300ppi.


Use the rectangular marquee to form the border inverse to capture border only
background fill white puts in the white border use the lasso tool to make the
sides of each of the "filed frames" after you have what you want fill these
with black do it on all 4 sides. You can use the lasso tool to make any other
interesting areas around the print. You can do this in PS and don't need to go
to second party sources. It isn't that hard. I think Adobe has a tutorial on
making a "ripped edge effect" that can be used for making the black border. If
any of this wasn't clear e-mail me. My address is functional. I would have
responded earlier but life has been hard lately
Peace
Stan
Visual Arts Photography


J C December 30th 03 05:24 AM

how to put the border around a headshot?
 
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 01:30:33 -0800, "M77" wrote:
hicreproductions.com/4.htm


man, you other people are no help at all.


I hope you're kidding about that, cause several answers above are much
clearer than the one you provided.


and by the way, resolution on screen is rated in PIXELS per inch (ppi), not
dots (dpi), therefore you want your resolution set to 300ppi.


I'd ignore that statement. It is illogical as the two statements do
not belong in the same sentence. Just because you've added a
"therefore" does not make it true.

And I'll tell you why: the resolution of the monitor is usually about
72 to 96 ppi (divide the resolution you're running your monitor at by
the monitor's image area and you'll see).

So 300 ppi for a digital image has nothing to do with what the monitor
is displaying (unless you're designing web pages).

There's a much, much deeper reason for using 300 ppi for digital
images.


-- JC

stan December 30th 03 06:05 AM

how to put the border around a headshot?
 
Hey J C what is the "deeper" reason for the 300 ppi for digital? I'm seriously
behind the learning curve. Any help would be appreciated
Stan
Visual Arts Photography


J C wrote:

On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 01:30:33 -0800, "M77" wrote:
hicreproductions.com/4.htm


man, you other people are no help at all.


I hope you're kidding about that, cause several answers above are much
clearer than the one you provided.


and by the way, resolution on screen is rated in PIXELS per inch (ppi), not
dots (dpi), therefore you want your resolution set to 300ppi.


I'd ignore that statement. It is illogical as the two statements do
not belong in the same sentence. Just because you've added a
"therefore" does not make it true.

And I'll tell you why: the resolution of the monitor is usually about
72 to 96 ppi (divide the resolution you're running your monitor at by
the monitor's image area and you'll see).

So 300 ppi for a digital image has nothing to do with what the monitor
is displaying (unless you're designing web pages).

There's a much, much deeper reason for using 300 ppi for digital
images.

-- JC



Marc 182 December 30th 03 08:16 AM

how to put the border around a headshot?
 
In article , says...
Hey J C what is the "deeper" reason for the 300 ppi for digital? I'm seriously
behind the learning curve. Any help would be appreciated
Stan
Visual Arts Photography


You shouldn't top-post, that's for email. The effective resolution of
photo paper is around 200-250 ppi. By keeping the resolution of your
digital images above 300 ppi you ensure that no pixilation will be
detectable on your final output.

Marc

J C December 30th 03 06:15 PM

how to put the border around a headshot?
 
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 01:16:36 -0700, Marc 182
wrote:



You shouldn't top-post, that's for email. The effective resolution of
photo paper is around 200-250 ppi. By keeping the resolution of your
digital images above 300 ppi you ensure that no pixilation will be
detectable on your final output.

Marc


For digital printing on an inkjet or laser printer connected to a
computer the resolution recommendations have little to do with the
paper. It has everything to do with the print engines used by output
devices. And in fact, for inkjet printing generally a 150 ppi image is
more than enough for a photographic output

With real printing, on a printing press, the paper does play a small
role (because of dot gain, which is explained last).

As a simple example, lets take a one color laser printer and a one
color TIF file at 300 dpi (the explanation for inkjet printing is a
bit more complex).

Also, and this is very important, lets start with the concept that no
printer on the face of the planet prints a one-to-one correspondence
between the information in the digital file and the output device. To
put it simply the print engines of all output device process the image
into something that it can print.

Now this gets complex... In order to output that one color digital
file on a one color laser printer the print engine must interpret the
colors. The digital file can contain 256 colors of grey, but a laser
printer has only one color of toner (black). Therefore to simulate the
grey scale image the laser printer must break it down into halftone
dots, the size of these dots then determines the grey value that the
eye perceives. Take a look at a laser print out of a digital image and
you'll see the dots.

Now further, a laser printer capable of 600 or 1200 dpi printing does
not actually print 600 or 1200 individual dots that can be discerned
in the printed halftone, though the dots that do show up on paper are
composed of several toner dots joined together.

The reason that the RIP (or "raster image processor") in the printer
restricts its halftone line screen output is because a higher output
would require much more processing time.

So, instead the laser printer spits out a halftone with a maximum of
approximately 127 halftone line screen (also known as lpi, lines per
inch) [And note here that even though the print driver says the laser
is capable of a 150 or 200 line screen for halftones it is NOT.]

So what does all this processing mean... Well the printer's RIP
samples the image information and creates an appropriate halfone dot.
Since there is not a one-to-one correspondence between the colors in
the image and the resulting halftone dots, the RIP samples image
information ("pixels" in the image) and determines the size of the
halftone dot. The finer the resolution of the starting image (within
limits) the better the halftone output. Lower resolution images will
look fuzzy because of this sampling process.

AND NOW to answer why a 300 dpi image is a standard... because in high
quality printing (on a printing press) photographs will be output at
anywhere from 133 lines per inch to 200 lines per inch -- 133 is used
in most magazines, 150 used in technical publications (medical xrays
for example) and sometimes 200 in art books (and many times art books
will be printed in duotone, but I'll not confuse you here and just
leave that at that).

So in the 300 image resolution printed with a 150 line halftone, this
means that 4 image "pixels" will be converted into one halftone dot
(but the raster image processor also considers other surrounding
pixels in the process as well) and this resolution gets a very sharp
image for a printing press.

If you want to test this out then try this: Create an image that is
half white and half 100% black. Now create different resolutions of
this file and print this on your laser printer using different
halftone line screens. Then look closely at the border area between
black and white. The lower resolution images printed with lower
halftone line screen values will have more indistinct (aka fuzzy)
borders, which will make the image look out of focus.

However once you reach about 127 lines per inch in the halftone,
you've not reached the compromise point between the size of the
halftone dot and the size of the lasers toner splatter -- there's
unwanted toner dots in the white areas which degrade the image.
Similarly on a real printing press another effect occurs... the wet
ink spreads out because of the capillary action of the fibers in the
paper and this makes the halftone does slightly larger and thus the
image darker. There's a point at which making the halftone screen
smaller will not increase the image quality (neither black and white
nor color). [And FYI, because of this dot gain, the images produced
for most publications are tweaked so that their saturation when viewed
on screen looks washed out... which is done by "Adjusting... Curves"
in Photoshop.]

There's a lot that I've not covered and that I've simplified, but
that's basically how it works.


-- JC

stan December 31st 03 03:41 AM

how to put the border around a headshot?
 
Thanks.
Stan Visual Arts Photography

Marc 182 wrote:

In article , says...
Hey J C what is the "deeper" reason for the 300 ppi for digital? I'm seriously
behind the learning curve. Any help would be appreciated
Stan
Visual Arts Photography


You shouldn't top-post, that's for email. The effective resolution of
photo paper is around 200-250 ppi. By keeping the resolution of your
digital images above 300 ppi you ensure that no pixilation will be
detectable on your final output.

Marc



Marc 182 December 31st 03 06:19 AM

how to put the border around a headshot?
 
In article ,
says...
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 01:16:36 -0700, Marc 182
wrote:



You shouldn't top-post, that's for email. The effective resolution of
photo paper is around 200-250 ppi. By keeping the resolution of your
digital images above 300 ppi you ensure that no pixilation will be
detectable on your final output.

Marc


For digital printing on an inkjet or laser printer connected to a
computer the resolution recommendations have little to do with the
paper. It has everything to do with the print engines used by output
devices. And in fact, for inkjet printing generally a 150 ppi image is
more than enough for a photographic output

With real printing, on a printing press, the paper does play a small
role (because of dot gain, which is explained last).


Note, I don't disagree with anything you wrote. I was talking about
photographic paper, hypothetically the best possible output. Most
people are shocked to find out that the effective resolution of color
photo paper is only around 200-250 ppi, after all negs are an order of
magnitude higher resolution. My personal policy is to keep everything
above 300 ppi so I know no matter how I output it, the digital nature of
it won't be detectable.

Re. inkjets. I've been forced to print inkjet at 150 ppi or so, and the
result was ok, but on close examination you could tell. I'd say keep it
above 200 ppi if you can.

I don't get published much in mags, so I'll let all of that stand.
Sounded good to me.

Marc

M77 January 1st 04 11:13 PM

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"J C" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 01:30:33 -0800, "M77" wrote:
hicreproductions.com/4.htm


man, you other people are no help at all.


I hope you're kidding about that, cause several answers above are much
clearer than the one you provided.


yeah, that's why the original poster had to ask their question again?????
several of the previous responses were not clear, nor correct.

and by the way, resolution on screen is rated in PIXELS per inch (ppi),

not
dots (dpi), therefore you want your resolution set to 300ppi.


I'd ignore that statement. It is illogical as the two statements do
not belong in the same sentence. Just because you've added a
"therefore" does not make it true.


you're an idiot. digital images are rate at pixels per inch, not dots per
inch.

And I'll tell you why: the resolution of the monitor is usually about
72 to 96 ppi (divide the resolution you're running your monitor at by
the monitor's image area and you'll see).


moron. i never said anything about screen resolution.

So 300 ppi for a digital image has nothing to do with what the monitor
is displaying (unless you're designing web pages).


idiot. you missed my entire point. i'm surprised you know how to use a ng.

There's a much, much deeper reason for using 300 ppi for digital
images.


big fat dummy.







M77 January 1st 04 11:14 PM

how to put the border around a headshot?
 

"stan" wrote in message ...
Hey J C what is the "deeper" reason for the 300 ppi for digital? I'm

seriously
behind the learning curve. Any help would be appreciated
Stan
Visual Arts Photography


photographic print resoltion should always be thought of as 300ppi. you
may be able to get away with less from an inkjet, but if you output with a
pro digital printer, you will see the loss of quality.



M77 January 1st 04 11:15 PM

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"Marc 182" wrote in message
t...
In article , says...
Hey J C what is the "deeper" reason for the 300 ppi for digital? I'm

seriously
behind the learning curve. Any help would be appreciated
Stan
Visual Arts Photography


You shouldn't top-post, that's for email.


actually, top posting should never be used.




M77 January 1st 04 11:19 PM

how to put the border around a headshot?
 

"J C" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 01:16:36 -0700, Marc 182




As a simple example, lets take a one color laser printer and a one
color TIF file at 300 dpi (the explanation for inkjet printing is a
bit more complex).


what is dpi? i looked in photoshop and i couldn't find anything that said
dpi.

AND NOW to answer why a 300 dpi image is a standard...


holy crap you are a MORON. nobody is talking about press printing. we are
talking about PHOTOGRAPHIC resolution. you just typed a ton of garbage that
nobody asked to hear. one person asks what the 'deeper' meaning behind
300ppi was, and you go off on a psychotic rampage talking about press print
and printing with ONE color?????



M77 January 1st 04 11:21 PM

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"Marc 182" wrote in message

Note, I don't disagree with anything you wrote. I was talking about
photographic paper,


yes, and so was everybody else. he was the only idiot that started talking
about press printing.



J C January 2nd 04 05:01 PM

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On Thu, 1 Jan 2004 15:19:56 -0800, "M77" wrote:



holy crap you are a MORON. nobody is talking about press printing. we are
talking about PHOTOGRAPHIC resolution. you just typed a ton of garbage that
nobody asked to hear. one person asks what the 'deeper' meaning behind
300ppi was, and you go off on a psychotic rampage talking about press print
and printing with ONE color?????


That's because that's MUST be the starting point to understanding.

Here's why... what exactly do you think happens in the print engine
when you print your 300 ppi color image on an inkjet. Do you really
think that the inkjet produces a one-to-one correspondence between the
image information and the inkjet "dots" on the paper. It does not.
Your inkjet can break that down into 720 or 1440 dpi. So what exactly
do you think is happening?

Additionally, when you print on real photographic paper, do you think
that each there's a perfectly shaped grid of exposed chemicals on the
paper. There is not.

To understand, really understand, the recommendations for image
resolution you need to start with the basics and work your way up. The
digital resolution recommendations started a long time before there
even was such a thing as a desktop digital color printer. And there is
a reason for that... but if you don't want to know the reason that's
okay with me.


-- JC

Marc 182 January 3rd 04 07:34 AM

how to put the border around a headshot?
 
In article ,
says...

"Marc 182" wrote in message

Note, I don't disagree with anything you wrote. I was talking about
photographic paper,


yes, and so was everybody else. he was the only idiot that started talking
about press printing.


Quite the contrary, I read everything he wrote with interest. Idiot
would seem to be the last thing to describe him. Just because I don't
mag print doesn't mean I'm not interested in the details. He was on-
charter, on-topic, and maybe just a little off-point, ...but no, he was
on point too.

You shouldn't seek to speak for everyone else, just for yourself.

Marc

J C January 4th 04 05:40 AM

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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 00:34:18 -0700, Marc 182
wrote:

Quite the contrary, I read everything he wrote with interest. Idiot
would seem to be the last thing to describe him. Just because I don't
mag print doesn't mean I'm not interested in the details. He was on-
charter, on-topic, and maybe just a little off-point, ...but no, he was
on point too.

You shouldn't seek to speak for everyone else, just for yourself.

Marc



Thanks for the vote of confidence Marc.

People get really tied up in their personal explanations for the
rationale behind digital image resolutions and often don't see the
bigger picture that lead to the recommendations in the first place.


-- JC

Marc 182 January 7th 04 04:25 AM

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In article ,
says...
On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 00:34:18 -0700, Marc 182
wrote:

Quite the contrary, I read everything he wrote with interest. Idiot
would seem to be the last thing to describe him. Just because I don't
mag print doesn't mean I'm not interested in the details. He was on-
charter, on-topic, and maybe just a little off-point, ...but no, he was
on point too.

You shouldn't seek to speak for everyone else, just for yourself.

Marc



Thanks for the vote of confidence Marc.

People get really tied up in their personal explanations for the
rationale behind digital image resolutions and often don't see the
bigger picture that lead to the recommendations in the first place.


No problem. The guy just annoyed me because he called everyone on the
thread an "idiot" or "moron", except for me! The nerve! I can be as much
of an idiotic moron as anyone.

Marc

M77 January 7th 04 08:28 AM

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"J C" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 00:34:18 -0700, Marc 182
wrote:

Quite the contrary, I read everything he wrote with interest. Idiot
would seem to be the last thing to describe him. Just because I don't
mag print doesn't mean I'm not interested in the details. He was on-
charter, on-topic, and maybe just a little off-point, ...but no, he was
on point too.

You shouldn't seek to speak for everyone else, just for yourself.

Marc



Thanks for the vote of confidence Marc.

People get really tied up in their personal explanations for the
rationale behind digital image resolutions and often don't see the
bigger picture that lead to the recommendations in the first place.



yeah, this is coming from a guy using the term 'dpi' to describe digital
images? uh, ok. what exactly is 'dpi'?



J C January 7th 04 10:26 AM

how to put the border around a headshot?
 
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 00:28:28 -0800, "M77" wrote:


yeah, this is coming from a guy using the term 'dpi' to describe digital
images? uh, ok. what exactly is 'dpi'?


I guess you don't actually work with digital images in a professional
capacity then.

I'll tell you what, why don't you call someone in an electronic
pre-press department at a printing company and ask them whether using
the term "dpi" when talking about a TIF file is appropriate.

In simple terms, whether you call it "dpi" or "ppi" really does not
make much of a difference (do you really see that much of a difference
between the word "dot" and "pixel"?). The terms are used as synonyms
in the printing industry and everyone understands exactly what it
means when dpi is used when refering to a digital image. [However,
"lpi" actually is different.]

Since you insist that "dpi" is wrong, I can only conclude that you are
young and don't really have much experience handling digital images
for a living. And I say young, because only in the last few years have
people really started using PPI when describing digital images. So you
must have just become "aware" around that time.

I'm guessing you read your camera manual and some specs about video
cards and you think you know exactly what's what.

Come talk to me after you've spent 30 years working in publishing and
printing.


-- JC

M77 January 9th 04 02:44 AM

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"J C" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 00:28:28 -0800, "M77" wrote:


In simple terms, whether you call it "dpi" or "ppi" really does not
make much of a difference (do you really see that much of a difference
between the word "dot" and "pixel"?).


you obviously don't do this for a living. i don't see any dots on my
computer screen, therefore, how can a digital image be measured in DOTS per
inch? photoshop does not mention dpi either.

Since you insist that "dpi" is wrong, I can only conclude that you are
young and don't really have much experience handling digital images
for a living.


wrong. i do this crap for al iving. dpi, when describing a digital image
is WRONG. aren't you tired of being wrong?

And I say young, because only in the last few years have
people really started using PPI when describing digital images.


uh, no. it's always been ppi. maybe YOU just recently discovered dpi was
wrong.

So you
must have just become "aware" around that time.


your lack of knowledge is funny. holy crap you are one big dummy. you
need to read up on digital imaging and then get back to us.



J C January 9th 04 03:37 AM

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On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 18:44:16 -0800, "M77" wrote:



uh, no. it's always been ppi. maybe YOU just recently discovered dpi was
wrong.


Uh NO, it is not. Check this out. Scanner manufacturers list the specs
of their equipment in terms of DPI.

Here's just one example:
http://www.umax.com/scanners/index.j...ssional+models

Get a clue. Only twits in newsgroups think it is worth arguing the
distinction between dpi and ppi.

What? You don't see dots on your computer screen? Then you're not
using a magnifying glass or must have it turned off, cause they are
there.

By the way, I reviewed your comments. Do you realize that you've
actually added absolutely no technical knowledge to this thread. I can
only conclude that you must be lying about working with images
professionally. But then again I've encountered professional photogs
that don't even know what a CMYK image is... so if you are a pro you
can take comfort in knowing that you're not alone in your stupidity.


-- JC

M77 January 10th 04 06:30 AM

how to put the border around a headshot?
 

"J C" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 18:44:16 -0800, "M77" wrote:



uh, no. it's always been ppi. maybe YOU just recently discovered dpi

was
wrong.


Uh NO, it is not. Check this out. Scanner manufacturers list the specs
of their equipment in terms of DPI.

Here's just one example:
http://www.umax.com/scanners/index.j...ssional+models


didn't look at the link, but some manufacturers have decided to use the term
'dpi' incorrectly, only because retards like you don't know the difference.

Get a clue. Only twits in newsgroups think it is worth arguing the
distinction between dpi and ppi.


because there is a big difference. you can argue all you want, but you'll
still be wrong.

What? You don't see dots on your computer screen? Then you're not
using a magnifying glass or must have it turned off, cause they are
there.


WRONG MORON!!! your monitor is made of pixels, not dots.

By the way, I reviewed your comments. Do you realize that you've
actually added absolutely no technical knowledge to this thread. I can
only conclude that you must be lying about working with images
professionally. But then again I've encountered professional photogs
that don't even know what a CMYK image is... so if you are a pro you
can take comfort in knowing that you're not alone in your stupidity.


and i suppose you want your lab to output a cmyk file on their frontier?
you are the poster-child for retardation. congrats.



[email protected] January 3rd 05 09:12 PM

The best thing I have found for sloppy bodrders is Nitorix BorderIT.
(www.nitorix.com)

It does true full frame sloppy borders on any size image. It will also
batch process an entire folder of images.

I found these scripts through the www.opensourcephoto.net forum. Which
by the way is a great community of photographers.


[email protected] January 3rd 05 09:12 PM

The best thing I have found for sloppy bodrders is Nitorix BorderIT.
(www.nitorix.com)

It does true full frame sloppy borders on any size image. It will also
batch process an entire folder of images.

I found these scripts through the www.opensourcephoto.net forum. Which
by the way is a great community of photographers.


LauraWilliams December 22nd 18 12:26 PM

There are a number of frame styles available within Elements already, which you'd find under Layer Styles. There are a lot of useful sites about photo and photo editing, my favorite blog
http://weedit.photos/ for many years


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