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peter April 20th 05 09:15 PM

neatimage alternatives?
 
Are there any alternatives to neatimage that is just as good but
cheaper/free?
Or, does the latest photoshop have this feature (I plan to buy it some day)?



Jim Waggener April 20th 05 09:43 PM


"peter" wrote in message
news:wLy9e.36387$hB6.17244@trnddc06...
Are there any alternatives to neatimage that is just as good but
cheaper/free?
Or, does the latest photoshop have this feature (I plan to buy it some
day)?


Photoshop CS2 (shipping in May) has a new feature to reduce noise (or grain)
A current alternative to NeatImage is Noise Ninja.

Jim



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Marie-Aude April 20th 05 09:52 PM

Le Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:15:24 GMT, peter a tapoté d'un clavier léger:

Are there any alternatives to neatimage that is just as good but
cheaper/free?


Isn't Neat Image free ? It's called demo version, but it is stated on their
site that you can use it for free as long as you want for non-commercial
purposes "The Demo edition of Neat Image is distributed as freeware for
non-commercial use".
The only thing you miss is the batch processing.


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Marie-Aude April 20th 05 09:52 PM

Le Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:15:24 GMT, peter a tapoté d'un clavier léger:

Are there any alternatives to neatimage that is just as good but
cheaper/free?


Isn't Neat Image free ? It's called demo version, but it is stated on their
site that you can use it for free as long as you want for non-commercial
purposes "The Demo edition of Neat Image is distributed as freeware for
non-commercial use".
The only thing you miss is the batch processing.


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Bill Hilton April 20th 05 10:11 PM

Isn't Neat Image free ? It's called demo version, but it is stated on
their site that you can use it for free as long as you want for
non-commercial purposes


When I bought NI a couple of years ago there were four or five
versions, I *think* the free one only worked on jpegs, not on tiffs, so
it's not much use for many of us. IIRC there was a cheap version for 8
bit tiffs, a more expensive version for 16 bit/channel files, and
another more expensive version that was a Photoshop plug-in (instead of
standalone). Something like that ...

Bill


Pedro Graca April 20th 05 10:17 PM

peter wrote:
Are there any alternatives to neatimage that is just as good but
cheaper/free?


I can't compare the two, but have a look at Imagenomic's Noiseware
http://www.imagenomic.com/

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Pedro Graca April 20th 05 10:17 PM

peter wrote:
Are there any alternatives to neatimage that is just as good but
cheaper/free?


I can't compare the two, but have a look at Imagenomic's Noiseware
http://www.imagenomic.com/

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Marie-Aude April 20th 05 10:24 PM

Le 20 Apr 2005 14:11:23 -0700, Bill Hilton a tapoté d'un clavier léger:

When I bought NI a couple of years ago there were four or five
versions, I *think* the free one only worked on jpegs, not on tiffs, so
it's not much use for many of us. IIRC there was a cheap version for 8
bit tiffs, a more expensive version for 16 bit/channel files, and
another more expensive version that was a Photoshop plug-in (instead of
standalone). Something like that ...


As far as I can see on their site, the difference is more on handling
16bits, provinding or not the plusing for photoshop, and batch
possibilities. They say you can mork directly on TIFF images as well on
JPEG, that should be available in the free version.

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Marie-Aude April 20th 05 10:24 PM

Le 20 Apr 2005 14:11:23 -0700, Bill Hilton a tapoté d'un clavier léger:

When I bought NI a couple of years ago there were four or five
versions, I *think* the free one only worked on jpegs, not on tiffs, so
it's not much use for many of us. IIRC there was a cheap version for 8
bit tiffs, a more expensive version for 16 bit/channel files, and
another more expensive version that was a Photoshop plug-in (instead of
standalone). Something like that ...


As far as I can see on their site, the difference is more on handling
16bits, provinding or not the plusing for photoshop, and batch
possibilities. They say you can mork directly on TIFF images as well on
JPEG, that should be available in the free version.

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Marie-Aude April 20th 05 10:26 PM

Le 20 Apr 2005 14:11:23 -0700, Bill Hilton a tapoté d'un clavier léger:

When I bought NI a couple of years ago there were four or five
versions, I *think* the free one only worked on jpegs,


At leat now it's working on TIFF

http://www.neatimage.com/featuremap.html

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Marie-Aude April 20th 05 10:26 PM

Le 20 Apr 2005 14:11:23 -0700, Bill Hilton a tapoté d'un clavier léger:

When I bought NI a couple of years ago there were four or five
versions, I *think* the free one only worked on jpegs,


At leat now it's working on TIFF

http://www.neatimage.com/featuremap.html

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Markku V. April 20th 05 11:48 PM

"Are there any alternatives to neatimage that is just as good but
cheaper/free?"

Digital Toolbox Deluxe is very good and free but it is PhotoShop action
set thus you cannot use it as a standalone application.

http://www.2morrow.dk/75ppi/coolpix/actions/

More information and (comparisons) about noise reduction applications:

http://www.michaelalmond.com/Articles/noise.htm


Markku Virtanen


Bill Hilton April 21st 05 01:47 AM

Bill wrote ...
When I bought NI a couple of years ago there were four or
five versions, I *think* the free one only worked on jpegs


Marie-Aude replies ...
At leat now it's working on TIFF
http://www.neatimage.com/featu=ADremap.html


In the table for Demo (free) mode for 8 bit tiffs it says "+/- **" ...
look below in the fine print and it says "** +/- means input is
supported and output is not" ... which means you can LOAD an 8 bit tiff
and run the program to see what it will look like but you cannot write
out in tiff format, which means it's useless on tiffs for practical
purposes (except as a visual demo). At least that's how I interpret
it, and though it's been 2-3 years since I used the Demo I think that's
how it works.

Bill


Stacey April 21st 05 07:06 AM

peter wrote:

Are there any alternatives to neatimage that is just as good but
cheaper/free?


I didn't realise it was expencive...

--

Stacey

Stacey April 21st 05 07:06 AM

peter wrote:

Are there any alternatives to neatimage that is just as good but
cheaper/free?


I didn't realise it was expencive...

--

Stacey

David J Taylor April 21st 05 09:59 AM

peter wrote:
Are there any alternatives to neatimage that is just as good but
cheaper/free?


Paint Shop Pro 9 already has a noise reduction tool that works as well as
or better than Neat Image. As PSP9 includes perspective correction and
chromatic aberration (purple-fringing) reduction, it's very good value
for money.

David



David J Taylor April 21st 05 09:59 AM

peter wrote:
Are there any alternatives to neatimage that is just as good but
cheaper/free?


Paint Shop Pro 9 already has a noise reduction tool that works as well as
or better than Neat Image. As PSP9 includes perspective correction and
chromatic aberration (purple-fringing) reduction, it's very good value
for money.

David



Douglas April 21st 05 10:37 AM


"Stacey" wrote in message
...
peter wrote:

Are there any alternatives to neatimage that is just as good but
cheaper/free?


I didn't realise it was expencive...

--

Stacey


Stacey...
I originally downloaded the free plugin for Photoshop which also works with
Corel Photopaint and thought so much of it I bought the full version.

I could have saved my money. The difference of having control over your
settings only slows down the process and doesn't make a great deal of
difference. If you use Photoshop or Photopaint, download the freebe. It's
about as good as it gets.

Douglas



Douglas April 21st 05 10:37 AM


"Stacey" wrote in message
...
peter wrote:

Are there any alternatives to neatimage that is just as good but
cheaper/free?


I didn't realise it was expencive...

--

Stacey


Stacey...
I originally downloaded the free plugin for Photoshop which also works with
Corel Photopaint and thought so much of it I bought the full version.

I could have saved my money. The difference of having control over your
settings only slows down the process and doesn't make a great deal of
difference. If you use Photoshop or Photopaint, download the freebe. It's
about as good as it gets.

Douglas



Ron Hunter April 21st 05 12:17 PM

Jim Waggener wrote:
"peter" wrote in message
news:wLy9e.36387$hB6.17244@trnddc06...

Are there any alternatives to neatimage that is just as good but
cheaper/free?
Or, does the latest photoshop have this feature (I plan to buy it some
day)?



Photoshop CS2 (shipping in May) has a new feature to reduce noise (or grain)
A current alternative to NeatImage is Noise Ninja.

Jim


PSE3 has some fairly effective noise reduction. Probably the same code
as in Photoshop CS2.


--
Ron Hunter

Ron Hunter April 21st 05 12:17 PM

Jim Waggener wrote:
"peter" wrote in message
news:wLy9e.36387$hB6.17244@trnddc06...

Are there any alternatives to neatimage that is just as good but
cheaper/free?
Or, does the latest photoshop have this feature (I plan to buy it some
day)?



Photoshop CS2 (shipping in May) has a new feature to reduce noise (or grain)
A current alternative to NeatImage is Noise Ninja.

Jim


PSE3 has some fairly effective noise reduction. Probably the same code
as in Photoshop CS2.


--
Ron Hunter

Stacey April 22nd 05 08:05 AM

Ed Ruf wrote:



The plugin allows one to use the selection tools in you editor and apply
the noise reduction only to those areas.


Exactly. I also have no problem supporting a company that writes good
software. Linux is free but I send mandrake (now mandriva) a check once a
year to keep them going..
--

Stacey

Onno Voors April 22nd 05 07:37 PM

"Douglas" wrote in
:

I originally downloaded the free plugin for Photoshop which also works
with Corel Photopaint and thought so much of it I bought the full
version.



Where can I find this free plugin?

--
Onno Voors

Stacey April 23rd 05 07:01 AM

Ed Ruf wrote:



There is no free plugin. There is however a free demo stand alone app on
the Neat Image web site.


That's what I thought, they've never had a free plugin AFAIK and this kind
of app works much better as a plugin than as a stand alone so it can be
selectively applied using layers..
--

Stacey

Alain April 23rd 05 12:09 PM

In article wLy9e.36387$hB6.17244@trnddc06, says...
Are there any alternatives to neatimage that is just as good but
cheaper/free?
Or, does the latest photoshop have this feature (I plan to buy it some day)?


You could try picture Cooler.

A bit strange GUI, but very good results after some tests.

http://denoiser.shorturl.com/


For a line-up of most tools :

"Noise Reduction Tool Comparison"

http://www.michaelalmond.com/Articles/noise.htm

Alain


Alain April 23rd 05 12:09 PM

In article wLy9e.36387$hB6.17244@trnddc06, says...
Are there any alternatives to neatimage that is just as good but
cheaper/free?
Or, does the latest photoshop have this feature (I plan to buy it some day)?


You could try picture Cooler.

A bit strange GUI, but very good results after some tests.

http://denoiser.shorturl.com/


For a line-up of most tools :

"Noise Reduction Tool Comparison"

http://www.michaelalmond.com/Articles/noise.htm

Alain



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