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Dave Hunter October 27th 07 06:57 PM

Need Information on Sabre S+35 Enlarger
 
Hi All:

A while back, I picked up a small Sabre s+35 enlarger (also labelled "an
R$H Product" in a yard sale. While I realize this is only good for 35 mm
film, I am restoring it as much as I can.

It is missing its negative carrier. From looking at the unit, it looks
as though the original carrier would have been approximately 3"x3", and
the enlarger head has two indexing pins which would insert through the
carrier, one on each side.

Does anyone have a spare carrier for one of these (says he
optimistically and with a truly dumb hope), or more realistically, does
anyone have one of these they could photograph so that I could construct
one...

Also, and chances anyone would have a manual for this ancient toy?

I am just getting back into at least processing my own films, and am
looking for an inexpensive developing tank for 120 mm. and 35 mm. film
as well?

Many years ago, I processed my own films, and now that I have a number
of good 120 cameras (Bronica, Rollieflex, Yashica D) in the collection
and no nearby labs, it is time at least to develop my own film again.

Dave

Ken Hart October 28th 07 04:07 AM

Need Information on Sabre S+35 Enlarger
 

"Dave Hunter" wrote in message
...
Hi All:

A while back, I picked up a small Sabre s+35 enlarger (also labelled "an
R$H Product" in a yard sale. While I realize this is only good for 35 mm
film, I am restoring it as much as I can.

It is missing its negative carrier. From looking at the unit, it looks
as though the original carrier would have been approximately 3"x3", and
the enlarger head has two indexing pins which would insert through the
carrier, one on each side.

Does anyone have a spare carrier for one of these (says he
optimistically and with a truly dumb hope), or more realistically, does
anyone have one of these they could photograph so that I could construct
one...

Also, and chances anyone would have a manual for this ancient toy?

I am just getting back into at least processing my own films, and am
looking for an inexpensive developing tank for 120 mm. and 35 mm. film
as well?

Many years ago, I processed my own films, and now that I have a number
of good 120 cameras (Bronica, Rollieflex, Yashica D) in the collection
and no nearby labs, it is time at least to develop my own film again.

Dave


Over the years, when customers brought me old, odd-size negs, I made my own
neg 'carriers'

Just guessing he Do you think the indexing pins go through the carrier,
or perhaps they position the carrier.(The carrier butts up against them.)
Try cutting two pieces of mounting board stock the size of the negative
carrier stage plus a tb that sticks out the front. Cut a hole in the center
of them 24mm x 36mm. Cut notches for the indexing pins. Cut some index card
stock to fasten to the bottom piece spaced about by the width of the film to
help you position the negative. Hinge the two pieces together in the back.

As for the inexpensive developing tank-- there's this thing called eBay...!
Actually, I have a couple plactic single roll tanks (120 or 1-35mm, the type
where the top reel flange slides down for 35mm) that I wouldn't mind parting
with. If you're interested, email me privately with your zip code, and I'll
come up with a price.


--
Ken Hart




Dave Hunter October 28th 07 11:53 AM

Need Information on Sabre S+35 Enlarger
 
Hi Ken:

Ken Hart wrote:

Just guessing he Do you think the indexing pins go through the carrier,
or perhaps they position the carrier.(The carrier butts up against them.)
Try cutting two pieces of mounting board stock the size of the negative
carrier stage plus a tb that sticks out the front. Cut a hole in the center
of them 24mm x 36mm. Cut notches for the indexing pins. Cut some index card
stock to fasten to the bottom piece spaced about by the width of the film to
help you position the negative. Hinge the two pieces together in the back.


I would think that they would have to go up through the carrier - the
"lens cone" goes about 1/3 inch behind the pins and if the carrier
didn't go far enough back, some of the light to the condensor would be
interrupted. Either this, or perhaps the notches on the original carrier
might have been quite deep. I must look at it more closely, and do as
you say with a cardboard template (I had thought of doing that before,
too), and see if a negative strip placed in front of the pins will
completely show. The trickiest thing will be the placement of the
negative cutout ont he carrier to get it in the correct location. That
is why I was hoping to find someone with this oddball enlarger to get
the measurements of the carrier and the placement of the cut-out....

Last night, I disassembled the condensor and cleaned years of grime and
dust from it. It looks as though with a new carrier, it will be quite
functional.

As for the inexpensive developing tank-- there's this thing called eBay...!
Actually, I have a couple plactic single roll tanks (120 or 1-35mm, the type
where the top reel flange slides down for 35mm) that I wouldn't mind parting
with. If you're interested, email me privately with your zip code, and I'll
come up with a price.


Actually, I won one there last night for $2.99. (plus 8 times that for
shipping :-) It is an old GAF roll film tank with a thermometer that
doubles as an spin knob. That should do me for the first few films...

Thanks,

Dave

Dave Hunter October 28th 07 12:03 PM

Need Information on Sabre S+35 Enlarger
 
Hi All:

I am wondering if this carrier could be similar to an Omega D 35mm
Two-Piece Negative Carrier. It, too appears to have indexing pins, but
between the two pins, there is a half round of metal so that it covers
the whole light cone to the condensor. I saw one on eBay this morning -
alas, from the photo, I can't tell if it would be the correct distance
between the pins. The shape does look as though it would work.

Dave

Geoffrey S. Mendelson October 28th 07 12:09 PM

Need Information on Sabre S+35 Enlarger
 
Dave Hunter wrote:
Actually, I won one there last night for $2.99. (plus 8 times that for
shipping :-) It is an old GAF roll film tank with a thermometer that
doubles as an spin knob. That should do me for the first few films...



$3.99 for an apron tank:
http://www.freestylephoto.biz/sc_pro...=1603&pid=5628

$20 for something similar to a Paterson tank, with two reels:
(120/35mm)

http://www.freestylephoto.biz/sc_pro...=1603&pid=4733

Stainless steel tank with 2 35mm reels: ($24)

http://www.freestylephoto.biz/sc_pro...=1603&pid=4787

Post on the local Freecycle list. I've been able to get more stainless
steel tanks than most people would want (for me one is more than I want)
that way. I prefer the Paterson plastic ones.

Geoff.

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Dave Hunter October 29th 07 08:31 PM

Need Information on Sabre S+35 Enlarger
 
FYI - I may have found a carrier which will work. I only discovered one
link for a Sabre enlarger on the net, a recent sale of a different Sabre
model to a lady. I emailed her, asking for a photo of her carrier in the
hopes a photo would help me to recreate one. Yes, she was willing, but
she had an extra 35 mm carrier she was willing to part with. In a flurry
of emails verifying measurements, etc. I have purchased it. It looks as
though it will work with this machine, too. I will know of course for
certain only when it arrives. Keeping my fingers crossed!

Dave Hunter wrote:

Hi All:

A while back, I picked up a small Sabre s+35 enlarger (also labelled "an
R$H Product" in a yard sale. While I realize this is only good for 35 mm
film, I am restoring it as much as I can.

It is missing its negative carrier. From looking at the unit, it looks
as though the original carrier would have been approximately 3"x3", and
the enlarger head has two indexing pins which would insert through the
carrier, one on each side.

Does anyone have a spare carrier for one of these (says he
optimistically and with a truly dumb hope), or more realistically, does
anyone have one of these they could photograph so that I could construct
one...

Also, and chances anyone would have a manual for this ancient toy?

I am just getting back into at least processing my own films, and am
looking for an inexpensive developing tank for 120 mm. and 35 mm. film
as well?

Many years ago, I processed my own films, and now that I have a number
of good 120 cameras (Bronica, Rollieflex, Yashica D) in the collection
and no nearby labs, it is time at least to develop my own film again.

Dave



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