what's up with Nikon?
 

Canon announces their new products a month, or two at the most, before they
appear in the market. Nikon's doing the FUD more than half a year away, like
the D70 and now the D2X.

From: "leo"

Canon announces their new products a month, or two at the most, before they
appear in the market. Nikon's doing the FUD more than half a year away, like
the D70 and now the D2X.

If you have a product like the 1Ds that's currently shipping you typically
wouldn't announce the model replacing it (1Ds Mark II) until you're ready to
start shipping. Otherwise sales would dry up for the existing model. Same
deal with the 20D, they announce it and start shipping product within a couple
of weeks, and suddenly the 10D looks like yesterday's news.

If you don't have a product in that slot (if you're not competing with
yourself) then you'd announce several months early since you aren't
canibalizing your sales and also you might keep some of your base users from
jumping ship to the competition. Minolta for example announced their dSLR last
February and we still don't know the ship date or price.

So Nikon has nothing to lose by announcing the D2X before they can actually
ship it, and a lot to gain since many pros have dumped Nikon and moved to Canon
because of the 1D Mark II and 1Ds. This should slow down the defections since
the D2X looks like a very sweet camera, based on the specs and projected price.

Bill

From: "leo"

Canon announces their new products a month, or two at the most, before they
appear in the market. Nikon's doing the FUD more than half a year away, like
the D70 and now the D2X.

If you have a product like the 1Ds that's currently shipping you typically
wouldn't announce the model replacing it (1Ds Mark II) until you're ready to
start shipping. Otherwise sales would dry up for the existing model. Same
deal with the 20D, they announce it and start shipping product within a couple
of weeks, and suddenly the 10D looks like yesterday's news.

If you don't have a product in that slot (if you're not competing with
yourself) then you'd announce several months early since you aren't
canibalizing your sales and also you might keep some of your base users from
jumping ship to the competition. Minolta for example announced their dSLR last
February and we still don't know the ship date or price.

So Nikon has nothing to lose by announcing the D2X before they can actually
ship it, and a lot to gain since many pros have dumped Nikon and moved to Canon
because of the 1D Mark II and 1Ds. This should slow down the defections since
the D2X looks like a very sweet camera, based on the specs and projected price.

Bill

Attempting to head off the loss of customers to Canon. Sort of a - "Hey
guys - if you just hold on, we'll be here pretty soon."
Like the new professional sports/news camera Nikon just announced last
week in time for the 2004 Summer Olympics, so all those Nikon pros can
catch --- Ooops! I guess that one is for the 2006 Winter Olympics.

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"leo" wrote in message
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Canon announces their new products a month, or two at the most, before
they
appear in the market. Nikon's doing the FUD more than half a year away,
like
the D70 and now the D2X.

Attempting to head off the loss of customers to Canon. Sort of a - "Hey
guys - if you just hold on, we'll be here pretty soon."
Like the new professional sports/news camera Nikon just announced last
week in time for the 2004 Summer Olympics, so all those Nikon pros can
catch --- Ooops! I guess that one is for the 2006 Winter Olympics.

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"leo" wrote in message
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Canon announces their new products a month, or two at the most, before
they
appear in the market. Nikon's doing the FUD more than half a year away,
like
the D70 and now the D2X.

"leo" writes:

Canon announces their new products a month, or two at the most, before they
appear in the market. Nikon's doing the FUD more than half a year away, like
the D70 and now the D2X.

Are you perhaps forgetting the Canon DO lenses?

B

"leo" writes:

Canon announces their new products a month, or two at the most, before they
appear in the market. Nikon's doing the FUD more than half a year away, like
the D70 and now the D2X.

Are you perhaps forgetting the Canon DO lenses?

B

"leo" wrote in message
ink.net...
Canon announces their new products a month, or two at the most, before
they
appear in the market. Nikon's doing the FUD more than half a year away,
like
the D70 and now the D2X.

Let's face it...
Nikon is clearly behind the curve when it comes to keeping pace wth Canon's
productivity in new technology.

Nikon is announcing early specifically to try and keep Nikon users from
jumping ship.
They are losing more and more photogs to Canon--in part because Canon keeps
coming up with the good in a timely manner.

Their 12MP competition to Canon's 1Ds is already behind BEFORE it's
released!
So...in a desparate attempt to not lose folks, they have to show what's
coming well in advance. Meanwhile, Canon 1Ds Mark IIs will be IN THE FIELD,
at 16.7MP.

Nikon had better do something OTHER than what they've done the last two
years or they will descend into real competetive trouble as they lose more
and more of their heart and soul users.

Canon is treading into medium format territory now, with this latest 16.7MP
monster. They intend to go after calendar folks, fashion, and full-page
magazine shooters.
Meanwhile, Nikon's only high res DSLR is limited to less than 8MP, and even
their future release is behind.

Come on Nikon! I'm pulling for ya!

"leo" wrote in message
ink.net...
Canon announces their new products a month, or two at the most, before
they
appear in the market. Nikon's doing the FUD more than half a year away,
like
the D70 and now the D2X.

Let's face it...
Nikon is clearly behind the curve when it comes to keeping pace wth Canon's
productivity in new technology.

Nikon is announcing early specifically to try and keep Nikon users from
jumping ship.
They are losing more and more photogs to Canon--in part because Canon keeps
coming up with the good in a timely manner.

Their 12MP competition to Canon's 1Ds is already behind BEFORE it's
released!
So...in a desparate attempt to not lose folks, they have to show what's
coming well in advance. Meanwhile, Canon 1Ds Mark IIs will be IN THE FIELD,
at 16.7MP.

Nikon had better do something OTHER than what they've done the last two
years or they will descend into real competetive trouble as they lose more
and more of their heart and soul users.

Canon is treading into medium format territory now, with this latest 16.7MP
monster. They intend to go after calendar folks, fashion, and full-page
magazine shooters.
Meanwhile, Nikon's only high res DSLR is limited to less than 8MP, and even
their future release is behind.

Come on Nikon! I'm pulling for ya!

"Bruce Murphy" wrote in message
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"leo" writes:

Canon announces their new products a month, or two at the most, before
they
appear in the market. Nikon's doing the FUD more than half a year away,
like
the D70 and now the D2X.

Are you perhaps forgetting the Canon DO lenses?

B


I don't know the story of the DO lenses but possibly due to production
problem. It's different from Nikon's situation. I think there were no
competition for the DO lenses so there's no need to use FUD tactics.