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newshound January 28th 19 05:02 PM

Fuji raw processing
 
When I bought the X-E1 a few years back I also had a new Macbook, and I
bought Affinity Photo for it. I had a play at raw processing but for
what I was doing, the JPEGs out of the camera were fine, all I seemed to
need was cropping, straightening, maybe a touch of fill light, and
Picasa does all that easily. (I use Picasa for managing my photo files
anyway).

Step forward a few years, I have some X-T3 raw images that need
tweaking, but Affinity won't open them. Evidently the T3 format is "too
new". A bit disappointing.

Never mind, download X Raw Studio and see what it will do. I have my
files for processing on a NAS drive so that I can easily access them
from PC or Mac. But no, X Raw Studio has no "Network" option in the file
manager, I can only open the physical drives on the PC.

Too many software developers seem not to live in the real world.

I don't really want to do much PP, maybe just a bit on the occasional
(and rare) really good shot. Can't justify PS or LR costs or learning
curve. At least Affinity was relatively cheap.

/rant

newshound January 28th 19 05:26 PM

Fuji raw processing
 
On 28/01/2019 17:02, newshound wrote:
When I bought the X-E1 a few years back I also had a new Macbook, and I
bought Affinity Photo for it. I had a play at raw processing but for
what I was doing, the JPEGs out of the camera were fine, all I seemed to
need was cropping, straightening, maybe a touch of fill light, and
Picasa does all that easily. (I use Picasa for managing my photo files
anyway).

Step forward a few years, I have some X-T3 raw images that need
tweaking, but Affinity won't open them. Evidently the T3 format is "too
new". A bit disappointing.

Never mind, download X Raw Studio and see what it will do. I have my
files for processing on a NAS drive so that I can easily access them
from PC or Mac. But no, X Raw Studio has no "Network" option in the file
manager, I can only open the physical drives on the PC.


And it turns out I can't even do basic tweaking on the PC without
copying the file back to the camera, because this software uses the
camera hardware. Thank goodness Picassa still works on the JPEGs.


Too many software developers seem not to live in the real world.

I don't really want to do much PP, maybe just a bit on the occasional
(and rare) really good shot. Can't justify PS or LR costs or learning
curve. At least Affinity was relatively cheap.

/rant



nospam January 28th 19 05:43 PM

Fuji raw processing
 
In article ,
newshound wrote:

On 28/01/2019 17:02, newshound wrote:
When I bought the X-E1 a few years back I also had a new Macbook, and I
bought Affinity Photo for it. I had a play at raw processing but for
what I was doing, the JPEGs out of the camera were fine, all I seemed to
need was cropping, straightening, maybe a touch of fill light, and
Picasa does all that easily. (I use Picasa for managing my photo files
anyway).

Step forward a few years, I have some X-T3 raw images that need
tweaking, but Affinity won't open them. Evidently the T3 format is "too
new". A bit disappointing.

Never mind, download X Raw Studio and see what it will do. I have my
files for processing on a NAS drive so that I can easily access them
from PC or Mac. But no, X Raw Studio has no "Network" option in the file
manager, I can only open the physical drives on the PC.


And it turns out I can't even do basic tweaking on the PC without
copying the file back to the camera, because this software uses the
camera hardware. Thank goodness Picassa still works on the JPEGs.


stop using ****ty software. simple.

nospam January 28th 19 05:43 PM

Fuji raw processing
 
In article ,
newshound wrote:

When I bought the X-E1 a few years back I also had a new Macbook, and I
bought Affinity Photo for it. I had a play at raw processing but for
what I was doing, the JPEGs out of the camera were fine, all I seemed to
need was cropping, straightening, maybe a touch of fill light, and
Picasa does all that easily. (I use Picasa for managing my photo files
anyway).

Step forward a few years, I have some X-T3 raw images that need
tweaking, but Affinity won't open them. Evidently the T3 format is "too
new". A bit disappointing.


not really. there's always a lag from when a new camera appears and
when apps support its raw files. ask affinity to add it. it's in their
best interest to do so and likely already in progress.

Never mind, download X Raw Studio and see what it will do. I have my
files for processing on a NAS drive so that I can easily access them
from PC or Mac. But no, X Raw Studio has no "Network" option in the file
manager,


no need.

I can only open the physical drives on the PC.


all drives are physical.

what you mean are directly attached drives versus network volumes.

some apps may restrict access to network volumes because it doesn't
support multiple users. or it could just be a poorly written app, of
which there are many.

Too many software developers seem not to live in the real world.


they definitely do, except that a lot of them write ****ty apps, often
forcing the user to jump through hoops to do a simple task.

as long as users keep buying their ****ty apps and refuse to switch to
better ones, those developers have zero motivation to improve anything.

I don't really want to do much PP, maybe just a bit on the occasional
(and rare) really good shot. Can't justify PS or LR costs or learning
curve. At least Affinity was relatively cheap.


so is photoshop. in fact, it's approximately the same price.

Savageduck[_3_] January 28th 19 07:09 PM

Fuji raw processing
 
newshound wrote:
On 28/01/2019 17:02, newshound wrote:
When I bought the X-E1 a few years back I also had a new Macbook, and I
bought Affinity Photo for it. I had a play at raw processing but for
what I was doing, the JPEGs out of the camera were fine, all I seemed to
need was cropping, straightening, maybe a touch of fill light, and
Picasa does all that easily. (I use Picasa for managing my photo files
anyway).

Step forward a few years, I have some X-T3 raw images that need
tweaking, but Affinity won't open them. Evidently the T3 format is "too
new". A bit disappointing.

Never mind, download X Raw Studio and see what it will do. I have my
files for processing on a NAS drive so that I can easily access them
from PC or Mac. But no, X Raw Studio has no "Network" option in the file
manager, I can only open the physical drives on the PC.


And it turns out I can't even do basic tweaking on the PC without
copying the file back to the camera, because this software uses the
camera hardware. Thank goodness Picassa still works on the JPEGs.


Too many software developers seem not to live in the real world.

I don't really want to do much PP, maybe just a bit on the occasional
(and rare) really good shot. Can't justify PS or LR costs or learning
curve. At least Affinity was relatively cheap.

/rant




The idea of X RAW Studio is to give you the ability to process RAF files
you have saved to your computer, using the in-camera CPU .

https://fujifilm-x.com/global/stories/fujifilm-x-raw-studio-features-users-guide/

My other suggestion is download the free Capture One 12 Pro for Fujifilm.
It does a pretty good job.

--
Regards,
Savageduck

newshound January 28th 19 08:13 PM

Fuji raw processing
 
On 28/01/2019 19:09, Savageduck wrote:
newshound wrote:
On 28/01/2019 17:02, newshound wrote:
When I bought the X-E1 a few years back I also had a new Macbook, and I
bought Affinity Photo for it. I had a play at raw processing but for
what I was doing, the JPEGs out of the camera were fine, all I seemed to
need was cropping, straightening, maybe a touch of fill light, and
Picasa does all that easily. (I use Picasa for managing my photo files
anyway).

Step forward a few years, I have some X-T3 raw images that need
tweaking, but Affinity won't open them. Evidently the T3 format is "too
new". A bit disappointing.

Never mind, download X Raw Studio and see what it will do. I have my
files for processing on a NAS drive so that I can easily access them
from PC or Mac. But no, X Raw Studio has no "Network" option in the file
manager, I can only open the physical drives on the PC.


And it turns out I can't even do basic tweaking on the PC without
copying the file back to the camera, because this software uses the
camera hardware. Thank goodness Picassa still works on the JPEGs.


Too many software developers seem not to live in the real world.

I don't really want to do much PP, maybe just a bit on the occasional
(and rare) really good shot. Can't justify PS or LR costs or learning
curve. At least Affinity was relatively cheap.

/rant




The idea of X RAW Studio is to give you the ability to process RAF files
you have saved to your computer, using the in-camera CPU .

https://fujifilm-x.com/global/stories/fujifilm-x-raw-studio-features-users-guide/


I realise that *now*, but the interface when you open it not tethered
*looks* as though you have at least some basic features. Only you don't.


My other suggestion is download the free Capture One 12 Pro for Fujifilm.
It does a pretty good job.

Only 30 day free trial, then similar price to the big boys by the look
of it.

I realise that there is an overhead to decoding a raw file especially if
it is tweaked to add features in a new version, but given that Fuji are
not making money from software I'd expect the encoding to be
straightforward, and presumably they provide the spec to Adobe, etc. I
guess I will just have to wait for Affinity to catch up.

It seems to be a lot of fiddling around to use x-raw-studio. My normal
"flow" would be to download all files, to review JPEGs and select a few
for tweaking and put them in a special temporary folder. I suppose I'm
just going to have to wipe the card after downloading and make that my
"special" folder.

nospam January 28th 19 08:16 PM

Fuji raw processing
 
In article ,
newshound wrote:

I realise that there is an overhead to decoding a raw file


there isn't.

Bill W January 28th 19 09:36 PM

Fuji raw processing
 
On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 20:13:36 +0000, newshound
wrote:

On 28/01/2019 19:09, Savageduck wrote:
newshound wrote:
On 28/01/2019 17:02, newshound wrote:
When I bought the X-E1 a few years back I also had a new Macbook, and I
bought Affinity Photo for it. I had a play at raw processing but for
what I was doing, the JPEGs out of the camera were fine, all I seemed to
need was cropping, straightening, maybe a touch of fill light, and
Picasa does all that easily. (I use Picasa for managing my photo files
anyway).

Step forward a few years, I have some X-T3 raw images that need
tweaking, but Affinity won't open them. Evidently the T3 format is "too
new". A bit disappointing.

Never mind, download X Raw Studio and see what it will do. I have my
files for processing on a NAS drive so that I can easily access them
from PC or Mac. But no, X Raw Studio has no "Network" option in the file
manager, I can only open the physical drives on the PC.

And it turns out I can't even do basic tweaking on the PC without
copying the file back to the camera, because this software uses the
camera hardware. Thank goodness Picassa still works on the JPEGs.


Too many software developers seem not to live in the real world.

I don't really want to do much PP, maybe just a bit on the occasional
(and rare) really good shot. Can't justify PS or LR costs or learning
curve. At least Affinity was relatively cheap.

/rant



The idea of X RAW Studio is to give you the ability to process RAF files
you have saved to your computer, using the in-camera CPU .

https://fujifilm-x.com/global/stories/fujifilm-x-raw-studio-features-users-guide/


I realise that *now*, but the interface when you open it not tethered
*looks* as though you have at least some basic features. Only you don't.


My other suggestion is download the free Capture One 12 Pro for Fujifilm.
It does a pretty good job.

Only 30 day free trial, then similar price to the big boys by the look
of it.


There was a free version that was Fuji only. Were you looking at the
right one?

Savageduck[_3_] January 29th 19 12:12 AM

Fuji raw processing
 
newshound wrote:
On 28/01/2019 19:09, Savageduck wrote:
newshound wrote:
On 28/01/2019 17:02, newshound wrote:
When I bought the X-E1 a few years back I also had a new Macbook, and I
bought Affinity Photo for it. I had a play at raw processing but for
what I was doing, the JPEGs out of the camera were fine, all I seemed to
need was cropping, straightening, maybe a touch of fill light, and
Picasa does all that easily. (I use Picasa for managing my photo files
anyway).

Step forward a few years, I have some X-T3 raw images that need
tweaking, but Affinity won't open them. Evidently the T3 format is "too
new". A bit disappointing.

Never mind, download X Raw Studio and see what it will do. I have my
files for processing on a NAS drive so that I can easily access them
from PC or Mac. But no, X Raw Studio has no "Network" option in the file
manager, I can only open the physical drives on the PC.

And it turns out I can't even do basic tweaking on the PC without
copying the file back to the camera, because this software uses the
camera hardware. Thank goodness Picassa still works on the JPEGs.


Too many software developers seem not to live in the real world.

I don't really want to do much PP, maybe just a bit on the occasional
(and rare) really good shot. Can't justify PS or LR costs or learning
curve. At least Affinity was relatively cheap.

/rant



The idea of X RAW Studio is to give you the ability to process RAF files
you have saved to your computer, using the in-camera CPU .

https://fujifilm-x.com/global/stories/fujifilm-x-raw-studio-features-users-guide/


I realise that *now*, but the interface when you open it not tethered
*looks* as though you have at least some basic features. Only you don't.


My other suggestion is download the free Capture One 12 Pro for Fujifilm.
It does a pretty good job.

Only 30 day free trial, then similar price to the big boys by the look
of it.

I realise that there is an overhead to decoding a raw file especially if
it is tweaked to add features in a new version, but given that Fuji are
not making money from software I'd expect the encoding to be
straightforward, and presumably they provide the spec to Adobe, etc. I
guess I will just have to wait for Affinity to catch up.

It seems to be a lot of fiddling around to use x-raw-studio. My normal
"flow" would be to download all files, to review JPEGs and select a few
for tweaking and put them in a special temporary folder. I suppose I'm
just going to have to wipe the card after downloading and make that my
"special" folder.


Here you go. Capture One Express Fujifilm is free. Just scroll down the
page.

https://www.phaseone.com/en/Capture-One/Capture-One-Fujifilm.aspx

--
Regards,
Savageduck

newshound January 29th 19 01:24 PM

Fuji raw processing
 
On 29/01/2019 00:12, Savageduck wrote:
newshound wrote:
On 28/01/2019 19:09, Savageduck wrote:
newshound wrote:
On 28/01/2019 17:02, newshound wrote:
When I bought the X-E1 a few years back I also had a new Macbook, and I
bought Affinity Photo for it. I had a play at raw processing but for
what I was doing, the JPEGs out of the camera were fine, all I seemed to
need was cropping, straightening, maybe a touch of fill light, and
Picasa does all that easily. (I use Picasa for managing my photo files
anyway).

Step forward a few years, I have some X-T3 raw images that need
tweaking, but Affinity won't open them. Evidently the T3 format is "too
new". A bit disappointing.

Never mind, download X Raw Studio and see what it will do. I have my
files for processing on a NAS drive so that I can easily access them
from PC or Mac. But no, X Raw Studio has no "Network" option in the file
manager, I can only open the physical drives on the PC.

And it turns out I can't even do basic tweaking on the PC without
copying the file back to the camera, because this software uses the
camera hardware. Thank goodness Picassa still works on the JPEGs.


Too many software developers seem not to live in the real world.

I don't really want to do much PP, maybe just a bit on the occasional
(and rare) really good shot. Can't justify PS or LR costs or learning
curve. At least Affinity was relatively cheap.

/rant



The idea of X RAW Studio is to give you the ability to process RAF files
you have saved to your computer, using the in-camera CPU .

https://fujifilm-x.com/global/stories/fujifilm-x-raw-studio-features-users-guide/


I realise that *now*, but the interface when you open it not tethered
*looks* as though you have at least some basic features. Only you don't.


My other suggestion is download the free Capture One 12 Pro for Fujifilm.
It does a pretty good job.

Only 30 day free trial, then similar price to the big boys by the look
of it.

I realise that there is an overhead to decoding a raw file especially if
it is tweaked to add features in a new version, but given that Fuji are
not making money from software I'd expect the encoding to be
straightforward, and presumably they provide the spec to Adobe, etc. I
guess I will just have to wait for Affinity to catch up.

It seems to be a lot of fiddling around to use x-raw-studio. My normal
"flow" would be to download all files, to review JPEGs and select a few
for tweaking and put them in a special temporary folder. I suppose I'm
just going to have to wipe the card after downloading and make that my
"special" folder.


Here you go. Capture One Express Fujifilm is free. Just scroll down the
page.

https://www.phaseone.com/en/Capture-One/Capture-One-Fujifilm.aspx

Thanks, I had not spotted that. They don't make it easy, though. I
couldn't see how to just download the free version, I've been forced to
register and download the Pro Fuji one for a 30 day trial. Watch this
space for progress. Initial thoughts are that it is not terribly
intuitive (but I am used to steep learning curves for audio, video, and
some photo editing).


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