Nikon Z6 vs Sony A7 III and lenses
 

So, my current setup is a Sony A7 III, a Nikon D800E and a Nikon Df, and a
real assortment of lenses.

With the Z6 getting off to a rocky start review-wise, it's still a pretty
interesting camera, and easily comparable to the first Sony A7.

My latest thinking, before the Z6 was announced, was whether I would go full
Sony. The A7 III is truly an amazing camera in every respect. Fastest focusing
I've ever seen, and razor-sharp focus at that.

But, all my high end lenses are Nikon, and I really really love the Df, so I'm
not sure I could abandon ship entirely.

I shot a wedding a few weekends back, using the D800 for most of the posing
shots and the A7 for the mingle shots. The difference in sharpness and laser
sharp focusing is palpable! And I came away thinking that I should use the A7
exclusively for all my shoots.

But then, the Z6, and what it may promise for the future. And specifically
what it may mean with regards to keeping all my wonderful Nikon lenses, with a
full-featured adapter.

**** just got really hard!

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Sandman

Nikon Z6 vs Sony A7 III and lenses
 

On 30 Aug 2018 08:49:21 GMT, Sandman wrote:

So, my current setup is a Sony A7 III, a Nikon D800E and a Nikon Df, and a
real assortment of lenses.

With the Z6 getting off to a rocky start review-wise, it's still a pretty
interesting camera, and easily comparable to the first Sony A7.

My latest thinking, before the Z6 was announced, was whether I would go full
Sony. The A7 III is truly an amazing camera in every respect. Fastest focusing
I've ever seen, and razor-sharp focus at that.

But, all my high end lenses are Nikon, and I really really love the Df, so I'm
not sure I could abandon ship entirely.

I shot a wedding a few weekends back, using the D800 for most of the posing
shots and the A7 for the mingle shots. The difference in sharpness and laser
sharp focusing is palpable! And I came away thinking that I should use the A7
exclusively for all my shoots.

But then, the Z6, and what it may promise for the future. And specifically
what it may mean with regards to keeping all my wonderful Nikon lenses, with a
full-featured adapter.

**** just got really hard!

With all that committment in Nikon, you'd actually consider jumping
ship? What about flashes and other accessories? Can you use your Nikon
glass effectively on the Sony?

Also, I didn't know the Z6 was getting bad reviews. Kind of surprised
since it's so new.

I'm just curious. I have no interest in acquiring the Z6 or any other
FF cam.

Nikon Z6 vs Sony A7 III and lenses
 

On Aug 30, 2018, wrote
(in ):

On 30 Aug 2018 08:49:21 GMT, wrote:

So, my current setup is a Sony A7 III, a Nikon D800E and a Nikon Df, and a
real assortment of lenses.

With the Z6 getting off to a rocky start review-wise, it's still a pretty
interesting camera, and easily comparable to the first Sony A7.

Sandman shooting bio redacted

But then, the Z6, and what it may promise for the future. And specifically
what it may mean with regards to keeping all my wonderful Nikon lenses,
with a
full-featured adapter.

**** just got really hard!

With all that committment in Nikon, you'd actually consider jumping
ship? What about flashes and other accessories? Can you use your Nikon
glass effectively on the Sony?

Also, I didn't know the Z6 was getting bad reviews. Kind of surprised
since it's so new.

It is so new that no consumers have their hands on any, only Nikon insiders,
and some media, and bloggers were given the PR treatment with limited time
test driving both cameras, and some of the lenses. Unfortunately the Z6 & Z7
were not what those folks were anticipating given the massive hype over the
last few weeks. Needless to say, there are a whole bunch of those folks who
are disappointed with this Nikon release.

Those who are still raving over them are deeply in the Nikon marketing
pocket, or are rabid Nikon fans. The bottom line is, regardless of the IQ of
images produced especially by the Z7 which uses the same sensor as the D850,
and is priced over $3500, it has missed the target of blowing away the Sony
A7 III or Sony A7R III.

I'm just curious. I have no interest in acquiring the Z6 or any other
FF cam.

Personally I am sticking with Fujifilm for my mirrorless camera needs.

--

Regards,
Savageduck

Nikon Z6 vs Sony A7 III and lenses
 

In article .com,
Savageduck wrote:


Personally I am sticking with Fujifilm for my mirrorless camera needs.

except there's no film anymore, so they should change their name to
better reflect (cough) their product lineup.

Nikon Z6 vs Sony A7 III and lenses
 

On Thu, 30 Aug 2018 12:40:27 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On Aug 30, 2018, wrote
(in ):

On 30 Aug 2018 08:49:21 GMT, wrote:

So, my current setup is a Sony A7 III, a Nikon D800E and a Nikon Df, and a
real assortment of lenses.

With the Z6 getting off to a rocky start review-wise, it's still a pretty
interesting camera, and easily comparable to the first Sony A7.

Sandman shooting bio redacted

But then, the Z6, and what it may promise for the future. And specifically
what it may mean with regards to keeping all my wonderful Nikon lenses,
with a
full-featured adapter.

**** just got really hard!

With all that committment in Nikon, you'd actually consider jumping
ship? What about flashes and other accessories? Can you use your Nikon
glass effectively on the Sony?

Also, I didn't know the Z6 was getting bad reviews. Kind of surprised
since it's so new.

It is so new that no consumers have their hands on any, only Nikon insiders,
and some media, and bloggers were given the PR treatment with limited time
test driving both cameras, and some of the lenses. Unfortunately the Z6 & Z7
were not what those folks were anticipating given the massive hype over the
last few weeks. Needless to say, there are a whole bunch of those folks who
are disappointed with this Nikon release.

Those who are still raving over them are deeply in the Nikon marketing
pocket, or are rabid Nikon fans. The bottom line is, regardless of the IQ of
images produced especially by the Z7 which uses the same sensor as the D850,
and is priced over $3500, it has missed the target of blowing away the Sony
A7 III or Sony A7R III.

I'm just curious. I have no interest in acquiring the Z6 or any other
FF cam.

Personally I am sticking with Fujifilm for my mirrorless camera needs.

I watched some reviews out of curiosity, and these cameras are being
savaged... by the reviewers. I can't remember if this has been
mentioned here, but they are apparently suspending production of the
Z7, and for months. And one reviewer hinted that Nikon is testing the
waters with these cameras, and they might not be fully committed to
them.

They are also now stating that "pro" versions of these cameras are
planned, meaning that the current version are not that at all.

The main complaints I've heard are severe blackouts of the EVF between
shots, mediocre AF & burst rate, single card slot, weak battery life,
and a battery grip that is not a grip at all, but what amounts to an
extra battery.

Nikon Z6 vs Sony A7 III and lenses
 

On Aug 30, 2018, nospam wrote
(in ) :

In iganews.com,
Savageduck wrote:


Personally I am sticking with Fujifilm for my mirrorless camera needs.

except there's no film anymore, so they should change their name to better reflect (cough) their product lineup.

Give them a call. I’m sure that they are open to suggestion. While you are
about it ask them what they are going to do with Xerox, to merge that into
their new corporate name.

--

Regards,
Savageduck

Nikon Z6 vs Sony A7 III and lenses
 

In article , wrote:

Sandman:
So, my current setup is a Sony A7 III, a Nikon D800E and a Nikon
Df, and a real assortment of lenses.

With the Z6 getting off to a rocky start review-wise, it's still a
pretty interesting camera, and easily comparable to the first Sony
A7.

My latest thinking, before the Z6 was announced, was whether I
would go full Sony. The A7 III is truly an amazing camera in every
respect. Fastest focusing I've ever seen, and razor-sharp focus at
that.

But, all my high end lenses are Nikon, and I really really love
the Df, so I'm not sure I could abandon ship entirely.

I shot a wedding a few weekends back, using the D800 for most of
the posing shots and the A7 for the mingle shots. The difference
in sharpness and laser sharp focusing is palpable! And I came away
thinking that I should use the A7 exclusively for all my shoots.

But then, the Z6, and what it may promise for the future. And
specifically what it may mean with regards to keeping all my
wonderful Nikon lenses, with a full-featured adapter.

**** just got really hard!

With all that committment in Nikon, you'd actually consider jumping
ship? What about flashes and other accessories? Can you use your
Nikon glass effectively on the Sony?

Also, I didn't know the Z6 was getting bad reviews. Kind of
surprised since it's so new.

I'm just curious. I have no interest in acquiring the Z6 or any
other FF cam.

The Z6/Z7 reception has been mixed, especially considering the sheer awe
reception of the A7 III. There are lots of reviewers that really like the Z
line from Nikon though.

And yeah - jumping ship is a huge step, and I really love my Nikon glass. So I
don't know. I got the Commlite adapter now, so I'll try it out with some Nikon
lenses and see how the AF works on the A7

--
Sandman

Nikon Z6 vs Sony A7 III and lenses
 

In article , Bill W wrote:

Savageduck:
Personally I am sticking with Fujifilm for my mirrorless camera
needs.

I watched some reviews out of curiosity, and these cameras are being
savaged... by the reviewers. I can't remember if this has been
mentioned here, but they are apparently suspending production of the
Z7, and for months. And one reviewer hinted that Nikon is testing
the waters with these cameras, and they might not be fully committed
to them.

They are also now stating that "pro" versions of these cameras are
planned, meaning that the current version are not that at all.

Exactly. For the prosumer to pro, here's the Matrix:

DSLR Sony Nikon
------------------------
D750 A7 III Z6
D850 A7R III Z7
D5 A9 ??

So that's where the pro camera needs to fit in. And the A9 is a seriously worthy
competitor to the D5.

The main complaints I've heard are severe blackouts of the EVF
between shots, mediocre AF & burst rate, single card slot, weak
battery life, and a battery grip that is not a grip at all, but what
amounts to an extra battery.

Some of these are valid complaints, some we should give the benefit of a doubt
until real review units are on the streets. Like battery life, apparently there
may have been some misunderstanding about that, so we'll see.

--
Sandman

Nikon Z6 vs Sony A7 III and lenses
 

On Aug 31, 2018, RichA wrote
(in ):

On Thursday, 30 August 2018 13:18:53 UTC-4, wrote:
On 30 Aug 2018 08:49:21 GMT, wrote:

So, my current setup is a Sony A7 III, a Nikon D800E and a Nikon Df, and a
real assortment of lenses.

With the Z6 getting off to a rocky start review-wise, it's still a pretty
interesting camera, and easily comparable to the first Sony A7.

My latest thinking, before the Z6 was announced, was whether I would go
full Sony. The A7 III is truly an amazing camera in every respect. Fastest
focusing I've ever seen, and razor-sharp focus at that.

But, all my high end lenses are Nikon, and I really really love the Df, so
I’m not sure I could abandon ship entirely.

I shot a wedding a few weekends back, using the D800 for most of the posing
shots and the A7 for the mingle shots. The difference in sharpness and
laser sharp focusing is palpable! And I came away thinking that I should use the
A7 exclusively for all my shoots.

But then, the Z6, and what it may promise for the future. And specifically
what it may mean with regards to keeping all my wonderful Nikon lenses,
with a full-featured adapter.

**** just got really hard!

With all that committment in Nikon, you'd actually consider jumping
ship? What about flashes and other accessories? Can you use your Nikon
glass effectively on the Sony?

Also, I didn't know the Z6 was getting bad reviews. Kind of surprised
since it's so new.

Whiners crowing mostly about "only one card slot!"

....and AF, AF-C tracking, Eye-AF, no vertical grip with controls, just an
auxillary battery holder, bad shutter black-out in CL, and CH, and noisy
mechanical shutter. Add to that list, the not particularly revolutionary
three initial release native *S* lenses. The only thing the Z6 & Z7 have
going for them is the ability to use some, but not all legacy Nikkor glass.
Other than those who are part of the Nikon marketing machine, none of the
individuals who have reported back after the release event tryout have any
illusion that these could be considered pro level cameras. They are over
priced consumer level cameras which are five years behind Sony, and the other
mirrorless manufacturers. The jury is still out with regard to third party
lenses.

These cameras are not going to revolutionize the FF Mirrorless market by
poaching Sony a7 III, & a7R III sales, they are going to sell to Nikon
enthusiast/hobbyists with fat budgets, and who are reluctant to leave the
Nikon fold.

It will be interesting to see what FF MILC Canon delivers in a few weeks.

I have no axe to grind in this war as I remain an APS-C shooter with no plans
to go FF. It is just interesting to see the development, and the hype Nikon
is using to come into the FF MILC market.

--

Regards,
Savageduck

Nikon Z6 vs Sony A7 III and lenses
 

On 31/08/2018 17:48, Savageduck wrote:
On Aug 31, 2018, RichA wrote
(in ):

On Thursday, 30 August 2018 13:18:53 UTC-4, wrote:
On 30 Aug 2018 08:49:21 GMT, wrote:

So, my current setup is a Sony A7 III, a Nikon D800E and a Nikon Df, and a
real assortment of lenses.

With the Z6 getting off to a rocky start review-wise, it's still a pretty
interesting camera, and easily comparable to the first Sony A7.

My latest thinking, before the Z6 was announced, was whether I would go
full Sony. The A7 III is truly an amazing camera in every respect. Fastest
focusing I've ever seen, and razor-sharp focus at that.

But, all my high end lenses are Nikon, and I really really love the Df, so
I’m not sure I could abandon ship entirely.

I shot a wedding a few weekends back, using the D800 for most of the posing
shots and the A7 for the mingle shots. The difference in sharpness and
laser sharp focusing is palpable! And I came away thinking that I should use the
A7 exclusively for all my shoots.

But then, the Z6, and what it may promise for the future. And specifically
what it may mean with regards to keeping all my wonderful Nikon lenses,
with a full-featured adapter.

**** just got really hard!

With all that committment in Nikon, you'd actually consider jumping
ship? What about flashes and other accessories? Can you use your Nikon
glass effectively on the Sony?

Also, I didn't know the Z6 was getting bad reviews. Kind of surprised
since it's so new.

Whiners crowing mostly about "only one card slot!"

...and AF, AF-C tracking, Eye-AF, no vertical grip with controls, just an
auxillary battery holder, bad shutter black-out in CL, and CH, and noisy
mechanical shutter. Add to that list, the not particularly revolutionary
three initial release native *S* lenses. The only thing the Z6 & Z7 have
going for them is the ability to use some, but not all legacy Nikkor glass.
Other than those who are part of the Nikon marketing machine, none of the
individuals who have reported back after the release event tryout have any
illusion that these could be considered pro level cameras. They are over
priced consumer level cameras which are five years behind Sony, and the other
mirrorless manufacturers. The jury is still out with regard to third party
lenses.

These cameras are not going to revolutionize the FF Mirrorless market by
poaching Sony a7 III, & a7R III sales, they are going to sell to Nikon
enthusiast/hobbyists with fat budgets, and who are reluctant to leave the
Nikon fold.

It will be interesting to see what FF MILC Canon delivers in a few weeks.

I have no axe to grind in this war as I remain an APS-C shooter with no plans
to go FF. It is just interesting to see the development, and the hype Nikon
is using to come into the FF MILC market.


+1

Large and medium format will always have its users, just a declining
number. Like you, I reckon APS-C now does what once needed FF. It even
does broadcast quality video. I've been at a couple of (outside) events
recently where BBC reporters were just using iPhones for radio interviews.

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