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What happened to Rec.photo.newsgroups???
Is it me, or has the rec.photo newsgroup gone to the toilet and flushed
itself! There used to be a time where this place, (and I mean all of the newsgroups in rec.photo,) had informative, PHOTOGRAPHIC information. I used to spend a lot of time browsing and learning, and yes, even sometimes contributing, to these newsgroups. Now it seems, all is lost because of all this rambling and dribble and porn crap! Cant people just stick to the subject? Any thoughts on how to do this??? James Kropp |
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On 20 Aug 2004 12:53:30 GMT, (James E Kropp) wrote:
Is it me, or has the rec.photo newsgroup gone to the toilet and flushed itself! There used to be a time where this place, (and I mean all of the newsgroups in rec.photo,) had informative, PHOTOGRAPHIC information. I used to spend a lot of time browsing and learning, and yes, even sometimes contributing, to these newsgroups. Now it seems, all is lost because of all this rambling and dribble and porn crap! Cant people just stick to the subject? Any thoughts on how to do this??? James Kropp Once you killfile the troll(s) and cross-posters, you will find there is still plenty of good on-topic posts. Colyn Goodson email hidden http://www.colyngoodson.com |
ColynG writes:
On 20 Aug 2004 12:53:30 GMT, (James E Kropp) wrote: Is it me, or has the rec.photo newsgroup gone to the toilet and flushed itself! There used to be a time where this place, (and I mean all of the newsgroups in rec.photo,) had informative, PHOTOGRAPHIC information. I used to spend a lot of time browsing and learning, and yes, even sometimes contributing, to these newsgroups. Now it seems, all is lost because of all this rambling and dribble and porn crap! Cant people just stick to the subject? Any thoughts on how to do this??? James Kropp Once you killfile the troll(s) and cross-posters, you will find there is still plenty of good on-topic posts. Yes. and it sure cuts down the list. My NG list ran 432 posts for rec.photo.dig this time. I actually have about 34 posts. The rest is trash. Charlie Self "Bore, n.: A person who talks when you wish him to listen." Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary |
ColynG writes:
On 20 Aug 2004 12:53:30 GMT, (James E Kropp) wrote: Is it me, or has the rec.photo newsgroup gone to the toilet and flushed itself! There used to be a time where this place, (and I mean all of the newsgroups in rec.photo,) had informative, PHOTOGRAPHIC information. I used to spend a lot of time browsing and learning, and yes, even sometimes contributing, to these newsgroups. Now it seems, all is lost because of all this rambling and dribble and porn crap! Cant people just stick to the subject? Any thoughts on how to do this??? James Kropp Once you killfile the troll(s) and cross-posters, you will find there is still plenty of good on-topic posts. Yes. and it sure cuts down the list. My NG list ran 432 posts for rec.photo.dig this time. I actually have about 34 posts. The rest is trash. Charlie Self "Bore, n.: A person who talks when you wish him to listen." Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary |
"James E Kropp" wrote in message ... Is it me, or has the rec.photo newsgroup gone to the toilet and flushed itself! There used to be a time where this place, (and I mean all of the newsgroups in rec.photo,) had informative, PHOTOGRAPHIC information. I used to spend a lot of time browsing and learning, and yes, even sometimes contributing, to these newsgroups. Now it seems, all is lost because of all this rambling and dribble and porn crap! Cant people just stick to the subject? Any thoughts on how to do this??? There are two groups of people currently ruining rec.photo.digital: 1) Trolls/spammers who post nonsense to deliberately disrupt the group. 2) Anal retentives who go on and on and on about using "killfiles" I don't know which group is more annoying, but I'm leaning toward the killfile crowd, most of whom want to blame and insult the victims of group 1. Sadly, the killfilers don't seem to understand the phrase, "it ain't gonna happen", as evidenced by their seemingly endless, mindless, and ineffectual parroting of "Use a killfile, stupid! AWK!" each time someone complains about the trolls. I think it was Einstein who described insanity as doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different result each time. People who might like to participate in the photo groups don't necessarily want to learn about newsreaders which support killfiles nor do they want to spend a single second creating a killfile--they want to plug in their Windows boxes, fire up Outlook Express, and do something interesting or fun online. There's nothing wrong with that, in the least: These folks are not lazy OR stupid, just different. To many of them, computers are tools letting them pursue their own interests which likely don't include computers, per se. Many of these people are knowledgeable about photography but when they are annoyed by the trolls, then insulted and mocked by the killfilers, they just simply go away, taking their potential contributions to the photo groups with them. All the killfilers are doing is encouraging a Darwinian selection process which, if successful, will result in photo newsgroups in which the participants know all about killfiles. Of course, that doesn't mean people in the selected population will that much about photography, though--just killfiles. Truth is, usenet needs a technical overhaul to bring it into the modern age. The system wasn't designed to prevent deliberate abuse because in the early days of the internet and usenet there was no need to protect against abuse. Not so today, obviously. |
"James E Kropp" wrote in message ... Is it me, or has the rec.photo newsgroup gone to the toilet and flushed itself! There used to be a time where this place, (and I mean all of the newsgroups in rec.photo,) had informative, PHOTOGRAPHIC information. I used to spend a lot of time browsing and learning, and yes, even sometimes contributing, to these newsgroups. Now it seems, all is lost because of all this rambling and dribble and porn crap! Cant people just stick to the subject? Any thoughts on how to do this??? There are two groups of people currently ruining rec.photo.digital: 1) Trolls/spammers who post nonsense to deliberately disrupt the group. 2) Anal retentives who go on and on and on about using "killfiles" I don't know which group is more annoying, but I'm leaning toward the killfile crowd, most of whom want to blame and insult the victims of group 1. Sadly, the killfilers don't seem to understand the phrase, "it ain't gonna happen", as evidenced by their seemingly endless, mindless, and ineffectual parroting of "Use a killfile, stupid! AWK!" each time someone complains about the trolls. I think it was Einstein who described insanity as doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different result each time. People who might like to participate in the photo groups don't necessarily want to learn about newsreaders which support killfiles nor do they want to spend a single second creating a killfile--they want to plug in their Windows boxes, fire up Outlook Express, and do something interesting or fun online. There's nothing wrong with that, in the least: These folks are not lazy OR stupid, just different. To many of them, computers are tools letting them pursue their own interests which likely don't include computers, per se. Many of these people are knowledgeable about photography but when they are annoyed by the trolls, then insulted and mocked by the killfilers, they just simply go away, taking their potential contributions to the photo groups with them. All the killfilers are doing is encouraging a Darwinian selection process which, if successful, will result in photo newsgroups in which the participants know all about killfiles. Of course, that doesn't mean people in the selected population will that much about photography, though--just killfiles. Truth is, usenet needs a technical overhaul to bring it into the modern age. The system wasn't designed to prevent deliberate abuse because in the early days of the internet and usenet there was no need to protect against abuse. Not so today, obviously. |
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