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Robert Coe June 17th 12 05:10 PM

[SI] Where are the comments on FOOD?
 
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 11:43:10 -0400, SI Committee
wrote:
: On 2012-06-17 10:40 , Chemiker wrote:
: FWIW: I never saw comments published/posted, but now in this NG I'm
: seeing comments on the comments. Were they posted to a different NG?
:
: The "home" of the SI is rec.photo.equipment.35mm with
: rec.photo.digital.slr-systems pretty much "taking over".

Hmmm... That I hadn't noticed. I left rec.photo.digital.slr-systems off of the
list of groups to which I posted my comments, because a) that group seems to
me to be losing ground to rec.photo.digital, b) not all of the SI pictures
were taken with SLRs, and c) there's been so much bitching lately about
unnecessary cross-posting. But I did post to the other three groups (although
I believe not all of the follow-up has included them all). Alex, I liked your
pictures (2) and (3), but thought that (1) was a good idea that somewhat
missed the mark.

: The x-posting is usually to all 4 groups (above) plus rec.photo.digital
: and alt.photography.

Not quite what you meant to say, I suspect, since r.p.d and alt.photography
are included in the four.

Bob

Alan Browne June 17th 12 05:49 PM

[SI] Where are the comments on FOOD?
 
On 2012-06-17 12:10 , Robert Coe wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 11:43:10 -0400, SI Committee
wrote:
: On 2012-06-17 10:40 , Chemiker wrote:
: FWIW: I never saw comments published/posted, but now in this NG I'm
: seeing comments on the comments. Were they posted to a different NG?
:
: The "home" of the SI is rec.photo.equipment.35mm with
: rec.photo.digital.slr-systems pretty much "taking over".

Hmmm... That I hadn't noticed. I left rec.photo.digital.slr-systems off of the
list of groups to which I posted my comments, because a) that group seems to
me to be losing ground to rec.photo.digital, b) not all of the SI pictures
were taken with SLRs, and c) there's been so much bitching lately about
unnecessary cross-posting. But I did post to the other three groups (although
I believe not all of the follow-up has included them all). Alex, I liked your
pictures (2) and (3), but thought that (1) was a good idea that somewhat
missed the mark.

: The x-posting is usually to all 4 groups (above) plus rec.photo.digital
: and alt.photography.

Not quite what you meant to say, I suspect, since r.p.d and alt.photography
are included in the four.


I'm permitted 3 logic bombs per day.

--
"Civilization is the limitless multiplication of unnecessary necessities."
-Samuel Clemens.

Chemiker June 17th 12 11:58 PM

[SI] Where are the comments on FOOD?
 
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 12:49:21 -0400, Alan Browne
wrote:

On 2012-06-17 12:10 , Robert Coe wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 11:43:10 -0400, SI Committee
wrote:
: On 2012-06-17 10:40 , Chemiker wrote:
: FWIW: I never saw comments published/posted, but now in this NG I'm
: seeing comments on the comments. Were they posted to a different NG?
:
: The "home" of the SI is rec.photo.equipment.35mm with
: rec.photo.digital.slr-systems pretty much "taking over".

Hmmm... That I hadn't noticed. I left rec.photo.digital.slr-systems off of the
list of groups to which I posted my comments, because a) that group seems to
me to be losing ground to rec.photo.digital, b) not all of the SI pictures
were taken with SLRs, and c) there's been so much bitching lately about
unnecessary cross-posting. But I did post to the other three groups (although
I believe not all of the follow-up has included them all). Alex, I liked your
pictures (2) and (3), but thought that (1) was a good idea that somewhat
missed the mark.


Noted, but where are the posts? I figured 1 and 2 might be something
to argue over, and 3 was really pretty ho-hum. But my system shows no
comments at all, only [SI] Food comment - xxxxxx (response)

?????????

Alex


Savageduck[_3_] June 18th 12 12:24 AM

[SI] Where are the comments on FOOD?
 
On 2012-06-17 15:58:05 -0700, Chemiker said:

On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 12:49:21 -0400, Alan Browne
wrote:

On 2012-06-17 12:10 , Robert Coe wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 11:43:10 -0400, SI Committee
wrote:
: On 2012-06-17 10:40 , Chemiker wrote:
: FWIW: I never saw comments published/posted, but now in this NG I'm
: seeing comments on the comments. Were they posted to a different NG?
:
: The "home" of the SI is rec.photo.equipment.35mm with
: rec.photo.digital.slr-systems pretty much "taking over".

Hmmm... That I hadn't noticed. I left rec.photo.digital.slr-systems off of the
list of groups to which I posted my comments, because a) that group seems to
me to be losing ground to rec.photo.digital, b) not all of the SI pictures
were taken with SLRs, and c) there's been so much bitching lately about
unnecessary cross-posting. But I did post to the other three groups (although
I believe not all of the follow-up has included them all). Alex, I liked your
pictures (2) and (3), but thought that (1) was a good idea that somewhat
missed the mark.


Noted, but where are the posts? I figured 1 and 2 might be something
to argue over, and 3 was really pretty ho-hum. But my system shows no
comments at all, only [SI] Food comment - xxxxxx (response)

?????????

Alex


The problem seems to be at your end of the pipeline. I posted my
comments on 06-13-2012, and others have responded to that thread.
Several other contributors have made comments some of which I have
responded to. With your exception, all of us seem to have no trouble
receiving and viewing the comments and responses posted thus far.

I would hate to learn that you had somehow filtered us from your Usenet
experience.

--
Regards,

Savageduck


Frank S June 18th 12 03:49 AM

[SI] Where are the comments on FOOD?
 

"Savageduck" wrote in message
news:2012061716244921123-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom...
On 2012-06-17 15:58:05 -0700, Chemiker said:

On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 12:49:21 -0400, Alan Browne
wrote:

On 2012-06-17 12:10 , Robert Coe wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 11:43:10 -0400, SI Committee
wrote:
: On 2012-06-17 10:40 , Chemiker wrote:
: FWIW: I never saw comments published/posted, but now in this NG I'm
: seeing comments on the comments. Were they posted to a different
NG?
:
: The "home" of the SI is rec.photo.equipment.35mm with
: rec.photo.digital.slr-systems pretty much "taking over".

Hmmm... That I hadn't noticed. I left rec.photo.digital.slr-systems off
of the
list of groups to which I posted my comments, because a) that group
seems to
me to be losing ground to rec.photo.digital, b) not all of the SI
pictures
were taken with SLRs, and c) there's been so much bitching lately about
unnecessary cross-posting. But I did post to the other three groups
(although
I believe not all of the follow-up has included them all). Alex, I
liked your
pictures (2) and (3), but thought that (1) was a good idea that
somewhat
missed the mark.


Noted, but where are the posts? I figured 1 and 2 might be something
to argue over, and 3 was really pretty ho-hum. But my system shows no
comments at all, only [SI] Food comment - xxxxxx (response)

?????????

Alex


The problem seems to be at your end of the pipeline. I posted my comments
on 06-13-2012, and others have responded to that thread. Several other
contributors have made comments some of which I have responded to. With
your exception, all of us seem to have no trouble receiving and viewing
the comments and responses posted thus far.

I would hate to learn that you had somehow filtered us from your Usenet
experience.



Something moved some posters in more than just photo groups into the bit
bucket, for me. I don't think I ever did it to the concerned banishees, but
I always have to hope that someone will respond to them without excessive
snipping. I looked through all my lists of blocked and excised persons, and
those folks do not exist in them. More magic than science in this, I fear.

--
Frank ess



Savageduck[_3_] June 18th 12 05:37 AM

[SI] Where are the comments on FOOD?
 
On 2012-06-17 19:49:39 -0700, "Frank S" said:


"Savageduck" wrote in message
news:2012061716244921123-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom...
On 2012-06-17 15:58:05 -0700, Chemiker said:

On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 12:49:21 -0400, Alan Browne
wrote:

On 2012-06-17 12:10 , Robert Coe wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 11:43:10 -0400, SI Committee
wrote:
: On 2012-06-17 10:40 , Chemiker wrote:
: FWIW: I never saw comments published/posted, but now in this NG I'm
: seeing comments on the comments. Were they posted to a different NG?
:
: The "home" of the SI is rec.photo.equipment.35mm with
: rec.photo.digital.slr-systems pretty much "taking over".

Hmmm... That I hadn't noticed. I left rec.photo.digital.slr-systems off of the
list of groups to which I posted my comments, because a) that group seems to
me to be losing ground to rec.photo.digital, b) not all of the SI pictures
were taken with SLRs, and c) there's been so much bitching lately about
unnecessary cross-posting. But I did post to the other three groups (although
I believe not all of the follow-up has included them all). Alex, I liked your
pictures (2) and (3), but thought that (1) was a good idea that somewhat
missed the mark.

Noted, but where are the posts? I figured 1 and 2 might be something
to argue over, and 3 was really pretty ho-hum. But my system shows no
comments at all, only [SI] Food comment - xxxxxx (response)

?????????

Alex


The problem seems to be at your end of the pipeline. I posted my
comments on 06-13-2012, and others have responded to that thread.
Several other contributors have made comments some of which I have
responded to. With your exception, all of us seem to have no trouble
receiving and viewing the comments and responses posted thus far.

I would hate to learn that you had somehow filtered us from your Usenet
experience.



Something moved some posters in more than just photo groups into the
bit bucket, for me. I don't think I ever did it to the concerned
banishees, but I always have to hope that someone will respond to them
without excessive snipping. I looked through all my lists of blocked
and excised persons, and those folks do not exist in them. More magic
than science in this, I fear.


Then the solution might be to clear, or empty the message cache and
reload the entire screwy NewsGroup. I have had to do this from time to
time when things go awry.
I see you are using MS Windows Live Mail which is not a dedicated
Usenet client, Alex is using a good client in Forte Agent. I am sure he
will be able to empty the message cache and reload, but I don't know
how you would go about it with Live Mail. All I can say is it might be
worth a try.


--
Regards,

Savageduck


Frank S June 18th 12 06:00 AM

[SI] Where are the comments on FOOD?
 

"Savageduck" wrote in message
news:2012061721375831566-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom...
On 2012-06-17 19:49:39 -0700, "Frank S" said:


"Savageduck" wrote in message
news:2012061716244921123-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom...
On 2012-06-17 15:58:05 -0700, Chemiker
said:

On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 12:49:21 -0400, Alan Browne
wrote:

On 2012-06-17 12:10 , Robert Coe wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 11:43:10 -0400, SI Committee
wrote:
: On 2012-06-17 10:40 , Chemiker wrote:
: FWIW: I never saw comments published/posted, but now in this NG
I'm
: seeing comments on the comments. Were they posted to a different
NG?
:
: The "home" of the SI is rec.photo.equipment.35mm with
: rec.photo.digital.slr-systems pretty much "taking over".

Hmmm... That I hadn't noticed. I left rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
off of the
list of groups to which I posted my comments, because a) that group
seems to
me to be losing ground to rec.photo.digital, b) not all of the SI
pictures
were taken with SLRs, and c) there's been so much bitching lately
about
unnecessary cross-posting. But I did post to the other three groups
(although
I believe not all of the follow-up has included them all). Alex, I
liked your
pictures (2) and (3), but thought that (1) was a good idea that
somewhat
missed the mark.

Noted, but where are the posts? I figured 1 and 2 might be something
to argue over, and 3 was really pretty ho-hum. But my system shows no
comments at all, only [SI] Food comment - xxxxxx (response)

?????????

Alex

The problem seems to be at your end of the pipeline. I posted my
comments on 06-13-2012, and others have responded to that thread.
Several other contributors have made comments some of which I have
responded to. With your exception, all of us seem to have no trouble
receiving and viewing the comments and responses posted thus far.

I would hate to learn that you had somehow filtered us from your Usenet
experience.



Something moved some posters in more than just photo groups into the bit
bucket, for me. I don't think I ever did it to the concerned banishees,
but I always have to hope that someone will respond to them without
excessive snipping. I looked through all my lists of blocked and excised
persons, and those folks do not exist in them. More magic than science in
this, I fear.


Then the solution might be to clear, or empty the message cache and reload
the entire screwy NewsGroup. I have had to do this from time to time when
things go awry.
I see you are using MS Windows Live Mail which is not a dedicated Usenet
client, Alex is using a good client in Forte Agent. I am sure he will be
able to empty the message cache and reload, but I don't know how you would
go about it with Live Mail. All I can say is it might be worth a try.




Thank you. I'll see what happens.

--
Frank ess



Savageduck[_3_] June 18th 12 02:57 PM

[SI] Where are the comments on FOOD?
 
On 2012-06-18 06:34:20 -0700, tony cooper said:

On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 21:37:58 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

Then the solution might be to clear, or empty the message cache and
reload the entire screwy NewsGroup. I have had to do this from time to
time when things go awry.
I see you are using MS Windows Live Mail which is not a dedicated
Usenet client, Alex is using a good client in Forte Agent. I am sure he
will be able to empty the message cache and reload, but I don't know
how you would go about it with Live Mail. All I can say is it might be
worth a try.


I've been using Forte Agent for something like 10 years. I've never
had to empty my message cache. I wouldn't even know how to do it.
I've never missed a message as far as I know. There are some I wish I
would have missed, though.


That's nice, but Alex has some sort of problem, not necessarily with
Agent, but probably with his server. Clearing the message cache and
reloading the troublesome NG might be a possible solution for him.

--
Regards,

Savageduck


Eric Stevens June 18th 12 09:31 PM

[SI] Where are the comments on FOOD?
 
On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 06:57:28 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2012-06-18 06:34:20 -0700, tony cooper said:

On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 21:37:58 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

Then the solution might be to clear, or empty the message cache and
reload the entire screwy NewsGroup. I have had to do this from time to
time when things go awry.
I see you are using MS Windows Live Mail which is not a dedicated
Usenet client, Alex is using a good client in Forte Agent. I am sure he
will be able to empty the message cache and reload, but I don't know
how you would go about it with Live Mail. All I can say is it might be
worth a try.


I've been using Forte Agent for something like 10 years. I've never
had to empty my message cache. I wouldn't even know how to do it.
I've never missed a message as far as I know. There are some I wish I
would have missed, though.


That's nice, but Alex has some sort of problem, not necessarily with
Agent, but probably with his server. Clearing the message cache and
reloading the troublesome NG might be a possible solution for him.


Agent does not know the term 'message cache' and, although it in
effect has one, it provides no way to deal with it. You may be able to
delete it if you know the right file (out of many) but it's not
recommended for the faint hearted.

Regards,

Eric Stevens

Savageduck[_3_] June 19th 12 12:12 AM

[SI] Where are the comments on FOOD?
 
On 2012-06-18 13:31:14 -0700, Eric Stevens said:

On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 06:57:28 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2012-06-18 06:34:20 -0700, tony cooper said:

On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 21:37:58 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

Then the solution might be to clear, or empty the message cache and
reload the entire screwy NewsGroup. I have had to do this from time to
time when things go awry.
I see you are using MS Windows Live Mail which is not a dedicated
Usenet client, Alex is using a good client in Forte Agent. I am sure he
will be able to empty the message cache and reload, but I don't know
how you would go about it with Live Mail. All I can say is it might be
worth a try.

I've been using Forte Agent for something like 10 years. I've never
had to empty my message cache. I wouldn't even know how to do it.
I've never missed a message as far as I know. There are some I wish I
would have missed, though.


That's nice, but Alex has some sort of problem, not necessarily with
Agent, but probably with his server. Clearing the message cache and
reloading the troublesome NG might be a possible solution for him.


Agent does not know the term 'message cache' and, although it in
effect has one, it provides no way to deal with it. You may be able to
delete it if you know the right file (out of many) but it's not
recommended for the faint hearted.

Regards,

Eric Stevens


With my client, Unison, I can empty the "Message Cache" for non-binary
groups, and the "Preview Cache" which deals with thumbnails, audio,
and video binary groups. It is quite a simple menu selection, and was
under the impression that Agent might have had a similar provision.

This allows for a clean reload of the effected group and has
occasionally solved some problems for me.


--
Regards,

Savageduck



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