some photos from the army...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/tjoje6dnb1...T0030.JPG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/o8f4pfhx84...T0034.JPG?dl=0 I recently got an 135 film&slide scanner from the online greek e-shop, a german Rollei for 60 euros (it's being made in China goes without saying)and here are some army photos taken with a disposable camera, the first one is me in front of the infamous G 127 armored fighting vehicle "leonidas" which is being made in Greece, with full armour, G3A4 rifle etc.The other is again me,with my all-time favourite, the MG3 machine gun. Oh, BTW the G 127 main armament is the .50 BMG, with API tracer ammo.The photos were taken with a disposable camera, because my main camera then (The Nikon FM-2) was envied by a sergeant, and I couldn't carry that thing around in war games etc.while the disposable would nicely fit in my pants pocket and if I lost it or it was stolen no damage done. I didn't know then that in a couple of years its worth would be less than 10 euros.Snif. BTW, also all service rifles are also greek construction, we bought the blueprints from Heckler & Koch (which is the original german manufacturer) and they were forged in Greece. |
some photos from the army...
On 1/8/2015 9:16 πμ, Rich A wrote:
On Friday, July 31, 2015 at 1:21:24 PM UTC-4, Tzortzakakis Dimitris wrote: https://www.dropbox.com/s/tjoje6dnb1...T0030.JPG?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/o8f4pfhx84...T0034.JPG?dl=0 I recently got an 135 film&slide scanner from the online greek e-shop, a german Rollei for 60 euros (it's being made in China goes without saying)and here are some army photos taken with a disposable camera, the first one is me in front of the infamous G 127 armored fighting vehicle "leonidas" which is being made in Greece, with full armour, G3A4 rifle etc.The other is again me,with my all-time favourite, the MG3 machine gun. Oh, BTW the G 127 main armament is the .50 BMG, with API tracer ammo.The photos were taken with a disposable camera, because my main camera then (The Nikon FM-2) was envied by a sergeant, and I couldn't carry that thing around in war games etc.while the disposable would nicely fit in my pants pocket and if I lost it or it was stolen no damage done. I didn't know then that in a couple of years its worth would be less than 10 euros.Snif. BTW, also all service rifles are also greek construction, we bought the blueprints from Heckler & Koch (which is the original german manufacturer) and they were forged in Greece. Interesting scans. Greece has something like 400 of those armoured vehicles. It would be time-consuming to deploy them far afield so I'm thinking that they anticipated perhaps using them close to home? Greece has a defensive doctrine, Rich so at least where I served in Rhodes we were to deploy them only if there was an attack by Turkey.My battalion had 33 of them, 11 for each of the 3 companies. We has also the support and the administration company, with many other weapons (Milan-basically a wire-guided missile with an anti-tank warhead-HEAT-HighExplosiveAntiTank), bazookas, fagot anti tank missile and so on.BTW, Rhodes is quite a big island exactly opposite Turkey with excellent beaches, very clean, good roads, very hospitable inhabitants. when I was there i visited the turkish mosque which was in the turkish cemetery. |
some photos from the army...
"Tzortzakakis Dimitris" wrote in message
... On 1/8/2015 9:16 πμ, Rich A wrote: On Friday, July 31, 2015 at 1:21:24 PM UTC-4, Tzortzakakis Dimitris wrote: https://www.dropbox.com/s/tjoje6dnb1...T0030.JPG?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/o8f4pfhx84...T0034.JPG?dl=0 I recently got an 135 film&slide scanner from the online greek e-shop, a german Rollei for 60 euros (it's being made in China goes without saying)and here are some army photos taken with a disposable camera, the first one is me in front of the infamous G 127 armored fighting vehicle "leonidas" which is being made in Greece, with full armour, G3A4 rifle etc.The other is again me,with my all-time favourite, the MG3 machine gun. Oh, BTW the G 127 main armament is the .50 BMG, with API tracer ammo.The photos were taken with a disposable camera, because my main camera then (The Nikon FM-2) was envied by a sergeant, and I couldn't carry that thing around in war games etc.while the disposable would nicely fit in my pants pocket and if I lost it or it was stolen no damage done. I didn't know then that in a couple of years its worth would be less than 10 euros.Snif. BTW, also all service rifles are also greek construction, we bought the blueprints from Heckler & Koch (which is the original german manufacturer) and they were forged in Greece. Interesting scans. Greece has something like 400 of those armoured vehicles. It would be time-consuming to deploy them far afield so I'm thinking that they anticipated perhaps using them close to home? Greece has a defensive doctrine, Rich so at least where I served in Rhodes we were to deploy them only if there was an attack by Turkey.My battalion had 33 of them, 11 for each of the 3 companies. We has also the support and the administration company, with many other weapons (Milan-basically a wire-guided missile with an anti-tank warhead-HEAT-HighExplosiveAntiTank), bazookas, fagot anti tank missile and so on.BTW, Rhodes is quite a big island exactly opposite Turkey with excellent beaches, very clean, good roads, very hospitable inhabitants. when I was there i visited the turkish mosque which was in the turkish cemetery. My father is from Lesvos, not far from Turkey either as you know. He left when he was 18 but his brother is still there. He had been "reactivated" into the military a few times when trouble brewed between Turkey and Greece. I don't think that's happened in quite some time, thankfully. BTW, in that second shot I had to do a double-take as at first glance I thought I was looking at my cousin. You look similar to him in that photo. |
some photos from the army...
On 4/8/2015 6:22 μμ, PAS wrote:
"Tzortzakakis Dimitris" wrote in message ... On 1/8/2015 9:16 πμ, Rich A wrote: On Friday, July 31, 2015 at 1:21:24 PM UTC-4, Tzortzakakis Dimitris wrote: https://www.dropbox.com/s/tjoje6dnb1...T0030.JPG?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/o8f4pfhx84...T0034.JPG?dl=0 I recently got an 135 film&slide scanner from the online greek e-shop, a german Rollei for 60 euros (it's being made in China goes without saying)and here are some army photos taken with a disposable camera, the first one is me in front of the infamous G 127 armored fighting vehicle "leonidas" which is being made in Greece, with full armour, G3A4 rifle etc.The other is again me,with my all-time favourite, the MG3 machine gun. Oh, BTW the G 127 main armament is the .50 BMG, with API tracer ammo.The photos were taken with a disposable camera, because my main camera then (The Nikon FM-2) was envied by a sergeant, and I couldn't carry that thing around in war games etc.while the disposable would nicely fit in my pants pocket and if I lost it or it was stolen no damage done. I didn't know then that in a couple of years its worth would be less than 10 euros.Snif. BTW, also all service rifles are also greek construction, we bought the blueprints from Heckler & Koch (which is the original german manufacturer) and they were forged in Greece. Interesting scans. Greece has something like 400 of those armoured vehicles. It would be time-consuming to deploy them far afield so I'm thinking that they anticipated perhaps using them close to home? Greece has a defensive doctrine, Rich so at least where I served in Rhodes we were to deploy them only if there was an attack by Turkey.My battalion had 33 of them, 11 for each of the 3 companies. We has also the support and the administration company, with many other weapons (Milan-basically a wire-guided missile with an anti-tank warhead-HEAT-HighExplosiveAntiTank), bazookas, fagot anti tank missile and so on.BTW, Rhodes is quite a big island exactly opposite Turkey with excellent beaches, very clean, good roads, very hospitable inhabitants. when I was there i visited the turkish mosque which was in the turkish cemetery. My father is from Lesvos, not far from Turkey either as you know. He left when he was 18 but his brother is still there. He had been "reactivated" into the military a few times when trouble brewed between Turkey and Greece. I don't think that's happened in quite some time, thankfully. BTW, in that second shot I had to do a double-take as at first glance I thought I was looking at my cousin. You look similar to him in that photo. Yep, I know lesvos but in greek we call it Mytilini from the island's capital so as to avoid "freudian slip: with gay women. The most intimidating weapon we had was the .50 BMG, for which ball rounds were forbidden by international treatiesm so all we had was ArmorPiercingIncendiary tracer rounds. We had one gun as an antiaircraft gun, and we were told that if there's an air strike our aim was not to shoot the aircraft down as it's difficult but to scare the pilot away as the bullets from the BMG travel at ~2 Mach which is also the aircraft speed and the pilot will see them buzzing by him and one is more than enough of taking him down. What suprised me was that the bullets for the AA BMG were in a kind of can exactly like a spam can but only bigger and green, goes without saying. The AA had a screw on barrel, that was supposed to be synchronized every time but the ones in the tank had a bayonet mount barrel, and came with a second barrel and several crates of API tracer ammo. |
some photos from the army...
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Tzortzakakis Dimitris wrote: .... The most intimidating weapon we had was the .50 BMG, for which ball rounds were forbidden by international treatiesm so all we had was ArmorPiercingIncendiary tracer rounds. .... There's a treaty that outlaws .50 cal ball ammo? What treaty is this? Why would a solid shot, which follows the Geneva Convention for such rounds, be outlawed? It's just a bigger version of the standard rifle ammo. It certainly hits harder, but hitting hard is allowed in a war. |
some photos from the army...
On 20/8/2015 6:58 μμ, Whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 19 August 2015 08:33:57 UTC+1, Jack Ryan wrote: In article Tzortzakakis Dimitris wrote: .... The most intimidating weapon we had was the .50 BMG, for which ball rounds were forbidden by international treatiesm so all we had was ArmorPiercingIncendiary tracer rounds. .... There's a treaty that outlaws .50 cal ball ammo? http://smartgunlaws.org/fifty-calibe...olicy-summary/ What treaty is this? Why would a solid shot, which follows the Geneva Convention for such rounds, be outlawed? It's just a bigger version of the standard rifle ammo. It certainly hits harder, but hitting hard is allowed in a war. but chemical weapons are banned aren't they. yep, that's what I was said, anyway. We had some leftover ball ammo from WWII, and I asked the 2nd in command (not the commander) a major, sir do you think that the gunpowder in these ammo is still ok, and he answered, if i shot you with the API you will die, if I shoot you with the ball you'll die anyway, so why would you care anyway. The API is normally used against other armored vehicles, it's depleted uranium which is pyroforic, so it would pierce the armor, and set in fire the ammo inside the enemy tank, and as mentioned, would kill anyway whoever had the misfortune on being on the business end of the gun. BTW, the BMG needs synchronising, like all machine guns, with the fire and no-fire, because the cartridge contains enough gunpowder to blow the machine and yourself to kingdom come. |
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