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Destin_FL January 10th 06 07:08 PM

Color shift having prints done at Walgreens / Target
 
Hello all,
Strange: I have some images I recorded in the D70 Adobe RGB ---- then got them
where I want them in PS CS2, Adobe RGB, and looking at them they look good.
Then I took them on the compact flash to Walgreens, and ..... they looked great
on the preview screen, you know on that card reader do-it-yourself machine
thing.
BUT when I got them back, they had an overwhelming green tint/cast to them. Of
course I wasn't charged for them...

And the guy said that his preview window on the big printer press machine showed
them looking correct too. Somewhere in the printing they went green.

Took them to Target.... same results, not as green, but still green.

The images are he http://www.hightidemediagroup.com/verytemp/Allison.jpg
and http://www.hightidemediagroup.com/verytemp/Lauren.jpg

Thanks so much for any ideas / solutions!!!

Tim



Marvin January 10th 06 08:26 PM

Color shift having prints done at Walgreens / Target
 
Destin_FL wrote:
Hello all,
Strange: I have some images I recorded in the D70 Adobe RGB ---- then got them
where I want them in PS CS2, Adobe RGB, and looking at them they look good.
Then I took them on the compact flash to Walgreens, and ..... they looked great
on the preview screen, you know on that card reader do-it-yourself machine
thing.
BUT when I got them back, they had an overwhelming green tint/cast to them. Of
course I wasn't charged for them...

And the guy said that his preview window on the big printer press machine showed
them looking correct too. Somewhere in the printing they went green.

Took them to Target.... same results, not as green, but still green.

The images are he http://www.hightidemediagroup.com/verytemp/Allison.jpg
and http://www.hightidemediagroup.com/verytemp/Lauren.jpg

Thanks so much for any ideas / solutions!!!

Tim


On my monitor, the backgrounds in both are green, as they should be. The skin colors
aren't at all green. Perhaps both stores are using the same kind of photo printer and/or
supplies.

bmoag January 10th 06 08:35 PM

Color shift having prints done at Walgreens / Target
 
Unless you print your own with a color managed workflow there is no real way
to control, much less troubleshoot, these types of problems.
Many people who post to this newsgroup love their Walmart prints . . .



Bob Williams January 10th 06 09:46 PM

Color shift having prints done at Walgreens / Target
 


Destin_FL wrote:
Hello all,
Strange: I have some images I recorded in the D70 Adobe RGB ---- then got them
where I want them in PS CS2, Adobe RGB, and looking at them they look good.
Then I took them on the compact flash to Walgreens, and ..... they looked great
on the preview screen, you know on that card reader do-it-yourself machine
thing.
BUT when I got them back, they had an overwhelming green tint/cast to them. Of
course I wasn't charged for them...

And the guy said that his preview window on the big printer press machine showed
them looking correct too. Somewhere in the printing they went green.

Took them to Target.... same results, not as green, but still green.

The images are he http://www.hightidemediagroup.com/verytemp/Allison.jpg
and http://www.hightidemediagroup.com/verytemp/Lauren.jpg

Thanks so much for any ideas / solutions!!!

Tim


On my monitor, Allison appears a bit too green.
Perhaps the surroundings were predominantly green and reflected light
which actually affected the color of the light reaching the subject.
Alternately your own monitor may not be calibrated correctly and adds a
slight magenta cast compensating for the real "too green" output.
Do all of your prints have a greenish cast?
I'd try pinking up the images a little with your photo editor.
Bob Williams


Destin_FL January 10th 06 09:56 PM

Color shift having prints done at Walgreens / Target
 
Yeah, don't get me wrong... I love both Wal-Mart and Walgreens for prints! This
batch though was reallllllly green. I took 4 different files to print and they
all had the same weird green cast to them. And looked great in the preview
screen at the store, AND the preview screen on the big printer/press.

I'm wondering if these drugstore printers/services just can't resolve or make
work the Adobe RBG? I'm thinking if I took them back as sRGB they might be
right. ???

When I ended up just doing them on my Canon Pixma they are perfect.

T





"bmoag" wrote in message
m...
Unless you print your own with a color managed workflow there is no real way
to control, much less troubleshoot, these types of problems.
Many people who post to this newsgroup love their Walmart prints . . .




l v January 10th 06 10:02 PM

Color shift having prints done at Walgreens / Target
 
Destin_FL wrote:
[snip]
Then I took them on the compact flash to Walgreens, and ..... they looked great
on the preview screen, you know on that card reader do-it-yourself machine
thing.
BUT when I got them back, they had an overwhelming green tint/cast to them. Of
course I wasn't charged for them...

And the guy said that his preview window on the big printer press machine showed
them looking correct too. Somewhere in the printing they went green.

[snip]

Thanks so much for any ideas / solutions!!!

Tim


I have not used Walgreens nor Target, but I have used CVS for my 4x6
prints. I have to *tell* the machine that I do not want any color
correction nor enhancements for each print I upload. On CVS's Kodak
machine there is an enhancement button for each pic which displays
another screen allowing me to remove color correction. It's painfull
to do for each pic, but I do get fairly quick at it.

Len


Edwin Pawlowski January 11th 06 02:01 AM

Color shift having prints done at Walgreens / Target
 

"Destin_FL" wrote in message

And the guy said that his preview window on the big printer press machine
showed
them looking correct too. Somewhere in the printing they went green.

Took them to Target.... same results, not as green, but still green.


I have to wonder about the sensors in the printer. There is a lot of green
in both shots and it may be picking up so much and not the skin tones.
Allison looks a bit pale on my monitor. Both girls are off center. If the
metering system is center weighted it may be over correcting that way.



Bob Williams January 11th 06 09:35 AM

Color shift having prints done at Walgreens / Target
 


Destin_FL wrote:
Yeah, don't get me wrong... I love both Wal-Mart and Walgreens for prints! This
batch though was reallllllly green. I took 4 different files to print and they
all had the same weird green cast to them. And looked great in the preview
screen at the store, AND the preview screen on the big printer/press.

I'm wondering if these drugstore printers/services just can't resolve or make
work the Adobe RBG? I'm thinking if I took them back as sRGB they might be
right. ???

When I ended up just doing them on my Canon Pixma they are perfect.


That is a possibility.
Those printers expect images to be in sRGB color space.
Just for our own information, why dont you convert to sRGB, have them
printed again and report back? "Inquiring Minds Want To Know"
Bob Williams



Chip Gallo January 11th 06 03:30 PM

Color shift having prints done at Walgreens / Target
 
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
"Destin_FL" wrote in message

And the guy said that his preview window on the big printer press machine
showed
them looking correct too. Somewhere in the printing they went green.

Took them to Target.... same results, not as green, but still green.



I have to wonder about the sensors in the printer. There is a lot of green
in both shots and it may be picking up so much and not the skin tones.
Allison looks a bit pale on my monitor. Both girls are off center. If the
metering system is center weighted it may be over correcting that way.



If you search this site for "Fuji Frontier," there is information on
getting decent color prints. All the Wal-Mart photo centers I have
visited have one of the Fuji's, either a 370 or a 390.

http://www.drycreekphoto.com/index.html

If you really want to do it right, visit White House Custom Colour and
download their guidance on how to set up digital prints. There are other
online labs to be sure. My 11x14s from WHCC won awards this past summer
at the county fair. Very accurate color. Reasonable prices. I don't work
for them btw.

http://www.whcc.com/

Chip Gallo
http://www.flickr.com/photos/chipgallo

Rod Williams January 11th 06 06:17 PM

Color shift having prints done at Walgreens / Target
 
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
"Destin_FL" wrote in message

And the guy said that his preview window on the big printer press machine
showed
them looking correct too. Somewhere in the printing they went green.

Took them to Target.... same results, not as green, but still green.



I have to wonder about the sensors in the printer. There is a lot of green
in both shots and it may be picking up so much and not the skin tones.
Allison looks a bit pale on my monitor. Both girls are off center. If the
metering system is center weighted it may be over correcting that way.


One thing I have found is that these printers are very smart and can
correct and make acceptable pictures out of bad pictures. I color
correct everything in Photo Shop with a calibrated monitor so I know my
pictures are correct. I asked if they could disable all correction and
print my pictures the way I intended them to look, and I was told that
it can't be done and they are only taught one way to print. They don't
seem to know anything other than how to push start. I guess that is why
they have pro labs. I print at home and get results that are the same as
what I see on the monitor. I would like to find a place that friends and
family could take my pictures and print them for themselves, saving me a
lot of time and money.


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