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Nikon SB-600
A few weeks ago my trusty Nikon SB-600 flash unit stopped working. I
sent it off to the Nikon service agent (700 miles away) and they reported that after they cleaned the battery contacts it was working OK. I tried to use it again today and everything was working properly - right up to when I try to take a photograph. All the right things happen in the window, including the little red light blinking as the capacitor recharges. But no flash. The problem is probably the flash but I want to prove that on another camera. The nearest suitable camera that I know is some 30 miles away, right through the heart of Auckland. The owner works rather extreme hours so it might be a week before I get to try it. In the meantime I would be interested to hear from anyone who knows the workings of Nikon flashes. What is the most likely problem? -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
Nikon SB-600
On 2021-05-09 01:16, Eric Stevens wrote:
A few weeks ago my trusty Nikon SB-600 flash unit stopped working. I sent it off to the Nikon service agent (700 miles away) and they reported that after they cleaned the battery contacts it was working OK. I tried to use it again today and everything was working properly - right up to when I try to take a photograph. All the right things happen in the window, including the little red light blinking as the capacitor recharges. But no flash. The problem is probably the flash but I want to prove that on another camera. The nearest suitable camera that I know is some 30 miles away, right through the heart of Auckland. The owner works rather extreme hours so it might be a week before I get to try it. In the meantime I would be interested to hear from anyone who knows the workings of Nikon flashes. What is the most likely problem? Did you try the flash test button? You can briefly short the centre pin on the flash to the ground - that may prove that at least the flash works. Pro tip: don't look at the flash when you do this. Whenever anything that uses cell batteries doesn't function, clean all the contacts with an abrasive. Make sure all the dust is recovered (vaccuum is best). (This means the battery compartment and the batteries). Connectors (flash shoe on camera and counterpart on flash, etc) should likewise get the treatment. Abrasives can be emery cloth, fine sandpaper, Scotchbrite. Don't use metal abrasives like steel wool. You may need to be creative to get into nooks and crannies. -- "...there are many humorous things in this world; among them the white man's notion that he is less savage than the other savages." -Samuel Clemens |
Nikon SB-600
In article , Eric Stevens
wrote: A few weeks ago my trusty Nikon SB-600 flash unit stopped working. I sent it off to the Nikon service agent (700 miles away) and they reported that after they cleaned the battery contacts it was working OK. I tried to use it again today and everything was working properly - right up to when I try to take a photograph. All the right things happen in the window, including the little red light blinking as the capacitor recharges. But no flash. The problem is probably the flash but I want to prove that on another camera. The nearest suitable camera that I know is some 30 miles away, right through the heart of Auckland. The owner works rather extreme hours so it might be a week before I get to try it. In the meantime I would be interested to hear from anyone who knows the workings of Nikon flashes. What is the most likely problem? why would you expect that 'the problem is probably the flash' when nikon repair said the flash is working properly? there are three possible reasons. one has been ruled out. two others remain. |
Nikon SB-600
In article , Alan Browne
wrote: On 2021-05-09 01:16, Eric Stevens wrote: A few weeks ago my trusty Nikon SB-600 flash unit stopped working. I sent it off to the Nikon service agent (700 miles away) and they reported that after they cleaned the battery contacts it was working OK. I tried to use it again today and everything was working properly - right up to when I try to take a photograph. All the right things happen in the window, including the little red light blinking as the capacitor recharges. But no flash. The problem is probably the flash but I want to prove that on another camera. The nearest suitable camera that I know is some 30 miles away, right through the heart of Auckland. The owner works rather extreme hours so it might be a week before I get to try it. In the meantime I would be interested to hear from anyone who knows the workings of Nikon flashes. What is the most likely problem? Did you try the flash test button? You can briefly short the centre pin on the flash to the ground - that may prove that at least the flash works. Pro tip: don't look at the flash when you do this. Whenever anything that uses cell batteries doesn't function, clean all the contacts with an abrasive. Make sure all the dust is recovered (vaccuum is best). (This means the battery compartment and the batteries). Connectors (flash shoe on camera and counterpart on flash, etc) should likewise get the treatment. Abrasives can be emery cloth, fine sandpaper, Scotchbrite. Don't use metal abrasives like steel wool. You may need to be creative to get into nooks and crannies. nikon did all of that (and more) and said the flash is working properly. the problem is not the flash. |
Nikon SB-600
On 2021-05-09 14:57, nospam wrote:
In article , Alan Browne wrote: On 2021-05-09 01:16, Eric Stevens wrote: A few weeks ago my trusty Nikon SB-600 flash unit stopped working. I sent it off to the Nikon service agent (700 miles away) and they reported that after they cleaned the battery contacts it was working OK. I tried to use it again today and everything was working properly - right up to when I try to take a photograph. All the right things happen in the window, including the little red light blinking as the capacitor recharges. But no flash. The problem is probably the flash but I want to prove that on another camera. The nearest suitable camera that I know is some 30 miles away, right through the heart of Auckland. The owner works rather extreme hours so it might be a week before I get to try it. In the meantime I would be interested to hear from anyone who knows the workings of Nikon flashes. What is the most likely problem? Did you try the flash test button? You can briefly short the centre pin on the flash to the ground - that may prove that at least the flash works. Pro tip: don't look at the flash when you do this. Whenever anything that uses cell batteries doesn't function, clean all the contacts with an abrasive. Make sure all the dust is recovered (vaccuum is best). (This means the battery compartment and the batteries). Connectors (flash shoe on camera and counterpart on flash, etc) should likewise get the treatment. Abrasives can be emery cloth, fine sandpaper, Scotchbrite. Don't use metal abrasives like steel wool. You may need to be creative to get into nooks and crannies. nikon did all of that (and more) and said the flash is working properly. the problem is not the flash. Allegedly. Further, Nikon did not clean the contacts on the camera, and above specified battery contacts, not show contacts. Missing info perhaps... -- "...there are many humorous things in this world; among them the white man's notion that he is less savage than the other savages." -Samuel Clemens |
Nikon SB-600
In article , Alan Browne
wrote: On 2021-05-09 01:16, Eric Stevens wrote: A few weeks ago my trusty Nikon SB-600 flash unit stopped working. I sent it off to the Nikon service agent (700 miles away) and they reported that after they cleaned the battery contacts it was working OK. I tried to use it again today and everything was working properly - right up to when I try to take a photograph. All the right things happen in the window, including the little red light blinking as the capacitor recharges. But no flash. The problem is probably the flash but I want to prove that on another camera. The nearest suitable camera that I know is some 30 miles away, right through the heart of Auckland. The owner works rather extreme hours so it might be a week before I get to try it. In the meantime I would be interested to hear from anyone who knows the workings of Nikon flashes. What is the most likely problem? Did you try the flash test button? You can briefly short the centre pin on the flash to the ground - that may prove that at least the flash works. Pro tip: don't look at the flash when you do this. Whenever anything that uses cell batteries doesn't function, clean all the contacts with an abrasive. Make sure all the dust is recovered (vaccuum is best). (This means the battery compartment and the batteries). Connectors (flash shoe on camera and counterpart on flash, etc) should likewise get the treatment. Abrasives can be emery cloth, fine sandpaper, Scotchbrite. Don't use metal abrasives like steel wool. You may need to be creative to get into nooks and crannies. nikon did all of that (and more) and said the flash is working properly. the problem is not the flash. Allegedly. there's no reason why nikon would lie about what they did. Further, Nikon did not clean the contacts on the camera, and above specified battery contacts, not show contacts. Missing info perhaps... like i said, there are three possibilities. the flash has been ruled out, which leaves two others. |
Nikon SB-600
On 2021-05-09 16:06, nospam wrote:
In article , Alan Browne wrote: On 2021-05-09 01:16, Eric Stevens wrote: A few weeks ago my trusty Nikon SB-600 flash unit stopped working. I sent it off to the Nikon service agent (700 miles away) and they reported that after they cleaned the battery contacts it was working OK. I tried to use it again today and everything was working properly - right up to when I try to take a photograph. All the right things happen in the window, including the little red light blinking as the capacitor recharges. But no flash. The problem is probably the flash but I want to prove that on another camera. The nearest suitable camera that I know is some 30 miles away, right through the heart of Auckland. The owner works rather extreme hours so it might be a week before I get to try it. In the meantime I would be interested to hear from anyone who knows the workings of Nikon flashes. What is the most likely problem? Did you try the flash test button? You can briefly short the centre pin on the flash to the ground - that may prove that at least the flash works. Pro tip: don't look at the flash when you do this. Whenever anything that uses cell batteries doesn't function, clean all the contacts with an abrasive. Make sure all the dust is recovered (vaccuum is best). (This means the battery compartment and the batteries). Connectors (flash shoe on camera and counterpart on flash, etc) should likewise get the treatment. Abrasives can be emery cloth, fine sandpaper, Scotchbrite. Don't use metal abrasives like steel wool. You may need to be creative to get into nooks and crannies. nikon did all of that (and more) and said the flash is working properly. the problem is not the flash. Allegedly. there's no reason why nikon would lie about what they did. Not saying anyone lied. Further, Nikon did not clean the contacts on the camera, and above specified battery contacts, not show contacts. Missing info perhaps... like i said, there are three possibilities. the flash has been ruled out, which leaves two others. Doesn't rule out the flash (or camera) show contacts needing a cleaning. -- "...there are many humorous things in this world; among them the white man's notion that he is less savage than the other savages." -Samuel Clemens |
Nikon SB-600
Connectors (flash shoe on camera and counterpart on flash, etc) should likewise get the treatment. Yes I had this problem with the shoe. Over time it takes more and more care when attaching the flash. |
Nikon SB-600
Abrasives can be emery cloth, fine sandpaper, Scotchbrite. Don't use metal abrasives like steel wool. You may need to be creative to get into nooks and crannies. Toothbrush? Even an electric one. |
Nikon SB-600
In article , Alan Browne
wrote: On 2021-05-09 01:16, Eric Stevens wrote: A few weeks ago my trusty Nikon SB-600 flash unit stopped working. I sent it off to the Nikon service agent (700 miles away) and they reported that after they cleaned the battery contacts it was working OK. I tried to use it again today and everything was working properly - right up to when I try to take a photograph. All the right things happen in the window, including the little red light blinking as the capacitor recharges. But no flash. The problem is probably the flash but I want to prove that on another camera. The nearest suitable camera that I know is some 30 miles away, right through the heart of Auckland. The owner works rather extreme hours so it might be a week before I get to try it. In the meantime I would be interested to hear from anyone who knows the workings of Nikon flashes. What is the most likely problem? Did you try the flash test button? You can briefly short the centre pin on the flash to the ground - that may prove that at least the flash works. Pro tip: don't look at the flash when you do this. Whenever anything that uses cell batteries doesn't function, clean all the contacts with an abrasive. Make sure all the dust is recovered (vaccuum is best). (This means the battery compartment and the batteries). Connectors (flash shoe on camera and counterpart on flash, etc) should likewise get the treatment. Abrasives can be emery cloth, fine sandpaper, Scotchbrite. Don't use metal abrasives like steel wool. You may need to be creative to get into nooks and crannies. nikon did all of that (and more) and said the flash is working properly. the problem is not the flash. Allegedly. there's no reason why nikon would lie about what they did. Not saying anyone lied. you said allegedly. nikon stated they cleaned and tested the flash. there is no reason to doubt that. Further, Nikon did not clean the contacts on the camera, and above specified battery contacts, not show contacts. Missing info perhaps... like i said, there are three possibilities. the flash has been ruled out, which leaves two others. Doesn't rule out the flash (or camera) show contacts needing a cleaning. according to nikon, the flash contacts are fine. |
Nikon SB-600
On May 9, 2021, nospam wrote
(in ) : In , Alan Browne wrote: On 2021-05-09 01:16, Eric Stevens wrote: A few weeks ago my trusty Nikon SB-600 flash unit stopped working. I sent it off to the Nikon service agent (700 miles away) and they reported that after they cleaned the battery contacts it was working OK. I tried to use it again today and everything was working properly - right up to when I try to take a photograph. All the right things happen in the window, including the little red light blinking as the capacitor recharges. But no flash. The problem is probably the flash but I want to prove that on another camera. The nearest suitable camera that I know is some 30 miles away, right through the heart of Auckland. The owner works rather extreme hours so it might be a week before I get to try it. In the meantime I would be interested to hear from anyone who knows the workings of Nikon flashes. What is the most likely problem? Did you try the flash test button? You can briefly short the centre pin on the flash to the ground - that may prove that at least the flash works. Pro tip: don't look at the flash when you do this. Whenever anything that uses cell batteries doesn't function, clean all the contacts with an abrasive. Make sure all the dust is recovered (vaccuum is best). (This means the battery compartment and the batteries). Connectors (flash shoe on camera and counterpart on flash, etc) should likewise get the treatment. Abrasives can be emery cloth, fine sandpaper, Scotchbrite. Don't use metal abrasives like steel wool. You may need to be creative to get into nooks and crannies. nikon did all of that (and more) and said the flash is working properly. the problem is not the flash. Allegedly. there's no reason why nikon would lie about what they did. Further, Nikon did not clean the contacts on the camera, and above specified battery contacts, not show contacts. Missing info perhaps... like i said, there are three possibilities. the flash has been ruled out, which leaves two others. It’s unlikely, but the flash could have an intermittent issue. But if, as someone else suggested, the flash works every time you press the test button, it’s gotta be something with the camera, maybe an inadvertent settings change, or its contacts. |
Nikon SB-600
In article
, Bill W wrote: Further, Nikon did not clean the contacts on the camera, and above specified battery contacts, not show contacts. Missing info perhaps... like i said, there are three possibilities. the flash has been ruled out, which leaves two others. Its unlikely, but the flash could have an intermittent issue. But if, as someone else suggested, the flash works every time you press the test button, its gotta be something with the camera, maybe an inadvertent settings change, or its contacts. that is one of the remaining two possibilities. |
Nikon SB-600
On May 9, 2021, nospam wrote
(in ) : In article , Bill W wrote: Further, Nikon did not clean the contacts on the camera, and above specified battery contacts, not show contacts. Missing info perhaps... like i said, there are three possibilities. the flash has been ruled out, which leaves two others. It¹s unlikely, but the flash could have an intermittent issue. But if, as someone else suggested, the flash works every time you press the test button, it¹s gotta be something with the camera, maybe an inadvertent settings change, or its contacts. that is one of the remaining two possibilities. Yeah, I’m aware of the other one. |
Nikon SB-600
On Sun, 9 May 2021 11:47:20 -0400, Alan Browne
wrote: On 2021-05-09 01:16, Eric Stevens wrote: A few weeks ago my trusty Nikon SB-600 flash unit stopped working. I sent it off to the Nikon service agent (700 miles away) and they reported that after they cleaned the battery contacts it was working OK. I tried to use it again today and everything was working properly - right up to when I try to take a photograph. All the right things happen in the window, including the little red light blinking as the capacitor recharges. But no flash. The problem is probably the flash but I want to prove that on another camera. The nearest suitable camera that I know is some 30 miles away, right through the heart of Auckland. The owner works rather extreme hours so it might be a week before I get to try it. In the meantime I would be interested to hear from anyone who knows the workings of Nikon flashes. What is the most likely problem? Did you try the flash test button? Yep. No go. You can briefly short the centre pin on the flash to the ground - that may prove that at least the flash works. Pro tip: don't look at the flash when you do this. Already done Whenever anything that uses cell batteries doesn't function, clean all the contacts with an abrasive. Make sure all the dust is recovered (vaccuum is best). (This means the battery compartment and the batteries). Connectors (flash shoe on camera and counterpart on flash, etc) should likewise get the treatment. Haven't done that. I will give it a go. Abrasives can be emery cloth, fine sandpaper, Scotchbrite. Don't use metal abrasives like steel wool. You may need to be creative to get into nooks and crannies. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
Nikon SB-600
In article , Incubus
wrote: On 2021-05-09, Eric Stevens wrote: A few weeks ago my trusty Nikon SB-600 flash unit stopped working. I sent it off to the Nikon service agent (700 miles away) and they reported that after they cleaned the battery contacts it was working OK. I tried to use it again today and everything was working properly - right up to when I try to take a photograph. All the right things happen in the window, including the little red light blinking as the capacitor recharges. But no flash. The problem is probably the flash but I want to prove that on another camera. The nearest suitable camera that I know is some 30 miles away, right through the heart of Auckland. The owner works rather extreme hours so it might be a week before I get to try it. In the meantime I would be interested to hear from anyone who knows the workings of Nikon flashes. What is the most likely problem? They are so cheap on the second hand market (which is the only market for them now) that you might as well go to mpb.com and get a replacement with guarantee. that won't fix the problem. |
Nikon SB-600
On Sun, 09 May 2021 17:16:03 +1200, Eric Stevens
wrote: A few weeks ago my trusty Nikon SB-600 flash unit stopped working. I sent it off to the Nikon service agent (700 miles away) and they reported that after they cleaned the battery contacts it was working OK. I tried to use it again today and everything was working properly - right up to when I try to take a photograph. All the right things happen in the window, including the little red light blinking as the capacitor recharges. But no flash. The problem is probably the flash but I want to prove that on another camera. The nearest suitable camera that I know is some 30 miles away, right through the heart of Auckland. The owner works rather extreme hours so it might be a week before I get to try it. In the meantime I would be interested to hear from anyone who knows the workings of Nikon flashes. What is the most likely problem? A new development. I sent the flash back to the Nikon service centre and they have just reported to me that the flash tube is broken - shattered. Presumably this happened when the flash was being shipped back to me although there was no evidence of rough handling on the box. I would not have thought that they were that fragile. Tubes may not be available in which case I am going to have to replace it. There are plenty of low priced used SB-600s on the market but are they worth buying. I am interested to note that, inspite of them not having been made since 2010, an outfit in Japan claims to have 5 of them - at US$900 each. Not fo me I am afraid. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
Nikon SB-600
In article , Eric Stevens
wrote: A new development. I sent the flash back to the Nikon service centre and they have just reported to me that the flash tube is broken - shattered. Presumably this happened when the flash was being shipped back to me although there was no evidence of rough handling on the box. I would not have thought that they were that fragile. you didn't test the flash prior to attaching it to the camera? |
Nikon SB-600
Am 11.05.2021 um 13:14 schrieb Eric Stevens:
A new development. I sent the flash back to the Nikon service centre and they have just reported to me that the flash tube is broken - shattered. Presumably this happened when the flash was being shipped back to me although there was no evidence of rough handling on the box. I would not have thought that they were that fragile. I find it amazing that you went all the way to send a flash to Nikon for repair. Nowadays if an electronics item breaks you just buy a new item (unless it's an expensive camera of course). -- Alfred Molon Olympus 4/3 and micro 4/3 cameras forum at https://groups.io/g/myolympus https://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site |
Nikon SB-600
On May 12, 2021, Incubus wrote
(in article ): On 2021-05-11, Alfred wrote: Am 11.05.2021 um 13:14 schrieb Eric Stevens: A new development. I sent the flash back to the Nikon service centre and they have just reported to me that the flash tube is broken - shattered. Presumably this happened when the flash was being shipped back to me although there was no evidence of rough handling on the box. I would not have thought that they were that fragile. I find it amazing that you went all the way to send a flash to Nikon for repair. Nowadays if an electronics item breaks you just buy a new item (unless it's an expensive camera of course). That surprised me too. Excellent ones are available on mpb.com for £64. It's surely more expensive to get it looked at than to just get another. Agreed! I have a 17 year old SB-800, but the my system that gets the most use is my Godox V350F and the Godox X1T-F TTL wireless flash trigger. http://www.godox.com/EN/Products_Camera_Flash_V350F.html -- Regards, Savageduck |
Nikon SB-600
On Tue, 11 May 2021 18:36:48 +0200, Alfred Molon
wrote: Am 11.05.2021 um 13:14 schrieb Eric Stevens: A new development. I sent the flash back to the Nikon service centre and they have just reported to me that the flash tube is broken - shattered. Presumably this happened when the flash was being shipped back to me although there was no evidence of rough handling on the box. I would not have thought that they were that fragile. I find it amazing that you went all the way to send a flash to Nikon for repair. Nowadays if an electronics item breaks you just buy a new item (unless it's an expensive camera of course). NZ$600 or from Amazon (US$345 + US$60 freight) + 15% local tax all multiplied by 1.4 for the exchange rate = NZ$652. I know there may be cheaper than Amazon but that price is indicative. Also purchases outside Australasia are not covered by warrantee in NZ. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
Nikon SB-600
On Wed, 12 May 2021 06:26:52 -0700, Savageduck
wrote: On May 12, 2021, Incubus wrote (in article ): On 2021-05-11, Alfred wrote: Am 11.05.2021 um 13:14 schrieb Eric Stevens: A new development. I sent the flash back to the Nikon service centre and they have just reported to me that the flash tube is broken - shattered. Presumably this happened when the flash was being shipped back to me although there was no evidence of rough handling on the box. I would not have thought that they were that fragile. I find it amazing that you went all the way to send a flash to Nikon for repair. Nowadays if an electronics item breaks you just buy a new item (unless it's an expensive camera of course). That surprised me too. Excellent ones are available on mpb.com for £64. It's surely more expensive to get it looked at than to just get another. Agreed! I have a 17 year old SB-800, but the my system that gets the most use is my Godox V350F and the Godox X1T-F TTL wireless flash trigger. http://www.godox.com/EN/Products_Camera_Flash_V350F.html I want something which will operate with the Nikon Command system and I haven't done any research as yet into alternatives. Nor do I know what local prices are like. Whatever, but they are not US prices. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
Nikon SB-600
Στις 12/5/2021 4:12 μ.μ., ο/η Incubus *γραψε:
On 2021-05-11, Alfred Molon wrote: Am 11.05.2021 um 13:14 schrieb Eric Stevens: A new development. I sent the flash back to the Nikon service centre and they have just reported to me that the flash tube is broken - shattered. Presumably this happened when the flash was being shipped back to me although there was no evidence of rough handling on the box. I would not have thought that they were that fragile. I find it amazing that you went all the way to send a flash to Nikon for repair. Nowadays if an electronics item breaks you just buy a new item (unless it's an expensive camera of course). That surprised me too. Excellent ones are available on mpb.com for £64. It's surely more expensive to get it looked at than to just get another. I had my Canon EOS-30 serviced in Canon Athens for 60 euros, all the buttons on the back were not working (I bought it NOS in October 2019) but that's a different case-the camera is not being manufactured any more. I have the Speedlite 540 EZ, also bought NOS. As the tube in the flash being shattered, I suppose it's being made of quartz (or maybe glass-I think it's being filled with xenon). You can see some of my photos in my flickr account- https://www.flickr.com/photos/167258532@N02/ |
Nikon SB-600
Am 13.05.2021 um 04:50 schrieb Eric Stevens:
On Tue, 11 May 2021 18:36:48 +0200, Alfred Molon wrote: Am 11.05.2021 um 13:14 schrieb Eric Stevens: A new development. I sent the flash back to the Nikon service centre and they have just reported to me that the flash tube is broken - shattered. Presumably this happened when the flash was being shipped back to me although there was no evidence of rough handling on the box. I would not have thought that they were that fragile. I find it amazing that you went all the way to send a flash to Nikon for repair. Nowadays if an electronics item breaks you just buy a new item (unless it's an expensive camera of course). NZ$600 or from Amazon (US$345 + US$60 freight) + 15% local tax all multiplied by 1.4 for the exchange rate = NZ$652. I know there may be cheaper than Amazon but that price is indicative. Also purchases outside Australasia are not covered by warrantee in NZ. Just had a look for compatible flashes and noticed that Metz went bankrupt. My goodness. But there are still other inexpensive alternatives to the Nikon branded flashes. -- Alfred Molon Olympus 4/3 and micro 4/3 cameras forum at https://groups.io/g/myolympus https://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site |
Nikon SB-600
In article , Incubus
wrote: Nikon flashes themselves are an inexpensive alternative. The SB-800 is still an incredible flash if you don't want to pay current prices for the new model. except when it overheats. |
Nikon SB-600
In article , Incubus
wrote: Nikon flashes themselves are an inexpensive alternative. The SB-800 is still an incredible flash if you don't want to pay current prices for the new model. except when it overheats. I thought that was a problem with the 900. The 800 is well regarded from what I have seen but I wouldn't touch the 900. the 900 shut down when it got too hot. the 800 didn't. |
Nikon SB-600
On May 17, 2021, Incubus wrote
(in article ): On 2021-05-17, wrote: In , Incubus wrote: Nikon flashes themselves are an inexpensive alternative. The SB-800 is still an incredible flash if you don't want to pay current prices for the new model. except when it overheats. I thought that was a problem with the 900. The 800 is well regarded from what I have seen but I wouldn't touch the 900. The SB-800 is great. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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