Affinity Photo for iPad
 

I bought a new toy last week, a 10.5� iPad Pro, with 512 GB, the keyboard,
and Apple Pencil. My purpose was to update my old iPad2, and to see how well
it would fit in as a replacement for a laptop for my photo travels.

I already had the Adobe Mobile Apps, Lightroom Mobile, Photoshop Fix, and
Photoshop Mix installed, and I had read good things regarding Affinity Photo
for iPad. So, I stepped and bought it. The end result is, I am very
impressed, it is so much more than the desktop edition, which I find to have
an awkward workflow. It is built to integrate with the iCloud file, or any
other app. For example I can save an edited image to my iCloud Drive, and/or
Dropbox, and/or Lightroom Mobile, all of which can make the file accessible
across all my devices, and sync with desktop/laptop LR.

I can transfer image files RAW, and/or JPEG, to my iPad from my X-E2, or X-T2
via WiFi.

So for any of you folks with an iPad I can highly recommend Affinity Photo
for iPad. Quite frankly I believe that it is currently one of the best photo
editing apps available for the iPad along with the Adobe Mobile set, and
Pixelmator.
https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/photo/ipad/

--

Regards,
Savageduck

Affinity Photo for iPad
 

In article .com,
Savageduck says...

I bought a new toy last week, a 10.5? iPad Pro, with 512 GB, the keyboard,
and Apple Pencil. My purpose was to update my old iPad2, and to see how well
it would fit in as a replacement for a laptop for my photo travels.

I already had the Adobe Mobile Apps, Lightroom Mobile, Photoshop Fix, and
Photoshop Mix installed, and I had read good things regarding Affinity Photo
for iPad. So, I stepped and bought it. The end result is, I am very
impressed, it is so much more than the desktop edition, which I find to have
an awkward workflow. It is built to integrate with the iCloud file, or any
other app. For example I can save an edited image to my iCloud Drive, and/or
Dropbox, and/or Lightroom Mobile, all of which can make the file accessible
across all my devices, and sync with desktop/laptop LR.

I can transfer image files RAW, and/or JPEG, to my iPad from my X-E2, or X-T2
via WiFi.

So for any of you folks with an iPad I can highly recommend Affinity Photo
for iPad. Quite frankly I believe that it is currently one of the best photo
editing apps available for the iPad along with the Adobe Mobile set, and
Pixelmator.
https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/photo/ipad/

Just curious - why not a tablet with a 12" screen - or is that too big?
Would make it easier to edit high res images.

And well, a tablet for image editing, not sure how much sense that
makes.
Personally I need a fast processor, a screen as large/high res as
possible and lots of storage (on a typical trip I take 100-150 GB of
image files, and uploading these to a cloud is not really feasible).
When I factor all that in, the ideal device is a notebook PC.

By the way, I gave a try a while ago to the desktop version of Affinity
and wasn't impressed.
--
Alfred Molon

Olympus E-series DSLRs and micro 4/3 forum at
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/
http://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site

Affinity Photo for iPad
 

In article , Alfred Molon
wrote:

I bought a new toy last week, a 10.5? iPad Pro, with 512 GB, the keyboard,
and Apple Pencil. My purpose was to update my old iPad2, and to see how
well it would fit in as a replacement for a laptop for my photo travels.

I already had the Adobe Mobile Apps, Lightroom Mobile, Photoshop Fix, and
Photoshop Mix installed, and I had read good things regarding Affinity
Photo
for iPad. So, I stepped and bought it. The end result is, I am very
impressed, it is so much more than the desktop edition, which I find to
have
an awkward workflow. It is built to integrate with the iCloud file, or any
other app. For example I can save an edited image to my iCloud Drive,
and/or
Dropbox, and/or Lightroom Mobile, all of which can make the file accessible
across all my devices, and sync with desktop/laptop LR.

I can transfer image files RAW, and/or JPEG, to my iPad from my X-E2, or
X-T2
via WiFi.

So for any of you folks with an iPad I can highly recommend Affinity Photo
for iPad. Quite frankly I believe that it is currently one of the best
photo
editing apps available for the iPad along with the Adobe Mobile set, and
Pixelmator.
https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/photo/ipad/

Just curious - why not a tablet with a 12" screen - or is that too big?
Would make it easier to edit high res images.

would also make it less portable.

And well, a tablet for image editing, not sure how much sense that
makes.

quite a bit, actually.

Personally I need a fast processor, a screen as large/high res as
possible and lots of storage (on a typical trip I take 100-150 GB of
image files, and uploading these to a cloud is not really feasible).
When I factor all that in, the ideal device is a notebook PC.

for you, perhaps.

keep in mind that an ipad pro tops out at 512 gb of flash storage.

By the way, I gave a try a while ago to the desktop version of Affinity
and wasn't impressed.

that's because you tried the windows version.

Affinity Photo for iPad
 

Alfred Molon:
And well, a tablet for image editing, not sure how much sense that
makes.

Try carrying your iMac around with you and you'll find out!

Personally I need a fast processor, a screen as large/high res as
possible and lots of storage (on a typical trip I take 100-150 GB of
image files, and uploading these to a cloud is not really feasible).
When I factor all that in, the ideal device is a notebook PC.

€ The iPad has a fast processor.
€ The iPad Pro display is large enough for its purpose, large enough
for image processing.
€ You don't have to upload the image files to a cloud; the software
does it for you as you take the photos.
€ It's for when you can't take your MacBook Pro.

--
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

Affinity Photo for iPad
 

In article , Davoud
wrote:

Alfred Molon:
And well, a tablet for image editing, not sure how much sense that
makes.

Try carrying your iMac around with you and you'll find out!

the original imac had a handle...

Personally I need a fast processor, a screen as large/high res as
possible and lots of storage (on a typical trip I take 100-150 GB of
image files, and uploading these to a cloud is not really feasible).
When I factor all that in, the ideal device is a notebook PC.

€ The iPad has a fast processor.

one which benchmarks faster than most laptops.

€ The iPad Pro display is large enough for its purpose, large enough
for image processing.

not only that, but the ipad pro has a wide gamut dci-p3 display, making
it ideal for image processing, versus a typical non-apple laptop.

€ You don't have to upload the image files to a cloud; the software
does it for you as you take the photos.

not if they're taken by a traditional camera.

ipads have as much as 512 gig, plenty of space for even the most active
shooters.

€ It's for when you can't take your MacBook Pro.

yep.

Affinity Photo for iPad
 

On 2017-09-23 04:51, Alfred Molon wrote:
In article .com,
Savageduck says...

I bought a new toy last week, a 10.5? iPad Pro, with 512 GB, the
keyboard, and Apple Pencil. My purpose was to update my old iPad2,
and to see how well it would fit in as a replacement for a laptop
for my photo travels.

I already had the Adobe Mobile Apps, Lightroom Mobile, Photoshop
Fix, and Photoshop Mix installed, and I had read good things
regarding Affinity Photo for iPad. So, I stepped and bought it. The
end result is, I am very impressed, it is so much more than the
desktop edition, which I find to have an awkward workflow. It is
built to integrate with the iCloud file, or any other app. For
example I can save an edited image to my iCloud Drive, and/or
Dropbox, and/or Lightroom Mobile, all of which can make the file
accessible across all my devices, and sync with desktop/laptop LR.

I can transfer image files RAW, and/or JPEG, to my iPad from my
X-E2, or X-T2 via WiFi.

So for any of you folks with an iPad I can highly recommend
Affinity Photo for iPad. Quite frankly I believe that it is
currently one of the best photo editing apps available for the iPad
along with the Adobe Mobile set, and Pixelmator.
https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/photo/ipad/

Just curious - why not a tablet with a 12" screen - or is that too
big? Would make it easier to edit high res images.

The difference between the 12 and 10.5" is not enough to matter when
portability on a long trip is factored in.

And well, a tablet for image editing, not sure how much sense that
makes.

Image editing on a tablet? Very natural interface.

Personally I need a fast processor, a screen as large/high res as

The ARM/GPU in the iPad's are very fast. Indeed it's a near
certainty that ARM will begin to replace intel in the Apple Mac line in
the coming years.

possible and lots of storage (on a typical trip I take 100-150 GB of
image files, and uploading these to a cloud is not really feasible).
When I factor all that in, the ideal device is a notebook PC.

Hmm. 512 GB is quite a lot then. No issue. No cloud needed.

I can't speak about Affinity, but I can say that I will never buy an
Adobe photo editing product again.

Affinity Photo for iPad
 

On 9/23/2017 9:07 AM, Alan Browne wrote:


snip.


Hmm.* 512 GB is quite a lot then.* No issue.* No cloud needed.

When I was traveling I looked into the iPad. Because of my workflow, it
didn't work for me. Remember, I use a high megapixel camera.


I can't speak about Affinity, but I can say that I will never buy an
Adobe photo editing product again.

I recently asked Topaz if they had any tutorials that might solve an
issue I was having with hair extraction using Re Mask, after they
updated it. First they suggested Clarity, to increase contrast. When I
pointed out that I had clarity and it did not work, they never answered
my support question. I plan to bring that issue up at Photo Expo in NY,
and continue looking on their forum. Meanwhile, Adobe is the best
around, if only because of their available support.

--
PeterN

Affinity Photo for iPad
 

On 9/23/2017 8:38 AM, nospam wrote:
In article , Davoud
wrote:

Alfred Molon:
And well, a tablet for image editing, not sure how much sense that
makes.

Try carrying your iMac around with you and you'll find out!

the original imac had a handle...


So did my old Compaq. So what is the relevance of your comment.




--
PeterN

Affinity Photo for iPad
 

In article , PeterN
wrote:

Hmm.* 512 GB is quite a lot then.* No issue.* No cloud needed.

When I was traveling I looked into the iPad. Because of my workflow, it
didn't work for me.

that's fine.

Remember, I use a high megapixel camera.

so what?

Affinity Photo for iPad
 

In article , PeterN
wrote:

Alfred Molon:
And well, a tablet for image editing, not sure how much sense that
makes.

Try carrying your iMac around with you and you'll find out!

the original imac had a handle...


So did my old Compaq. So what is the relevance of your comment.

whoooooooooooooooooooooosh.

Affinity Photo for iPad
 

On Sep 23, 2017, Alfred Molon wrote
(in om):

In iganews.com,
Savageduck says...

I bought a new toy last week, a 10.5? iPad Pro, with 512 GB, the keyboard,
and Apple Pencil. My purpose was to update my old iPad2, and to see how well
it would fit in as a replacement for a laptop for my photo travels.

I already had the Adobe Mobile Apps, Lightroom Mobile, Photoshop Fix, and
Photoshop Mix installed, and I had read good things regarding Affinity Photo
for iPad. So, I stepped and bought it. The end result is, I am very
impressed, it is so much more than the desktop edition, which I find to have
an awkward workflow. It is built to integrate with the iCloud file, or any
other app. For example I can save an edited image to my iCloud Drive, and/or
Dropbox, and/or Lightroom Mobile, all of which can make the file accessible
across all my devices, and sync with desktop/laptop LR.

I can transfer image files RAW, and/or JPEG, to my iPad from my X-E2, or
X-T2
via WiFi.

So for any of you folks with an iPad I can highly recommend Affinity Photo
for iPad. Quite frankly I believe that it is currently one of the best photo
editing apps available for the iPad along with the Adobe Mobile set, and
Pixelmator.
https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/photo/ipad/

Just curious - why not a tablet with a 12" screen - or is that too big?
Would make it easier to edit high res images.

While there is a 12� iPad Pro available, the 10� is the better choice
when it comes to portability. The resolution provided by the Retina display
is superb. I can edit 6000 x 4000 images down to a pixel level if I need to.

And well, a tablet for image editing, not sure how much sense that
makes.

It makes a lot of sense. It is actually a natural interface, and the Apple
Pencil takes controlability to a level tough to obtain on a desktop/laptop
environment, even with a Wacom Tablet.

Personally I need a fast processor, a screen as large/high res as
possible and lots of storage (on a typical trip I take 100-150 GB of
image files, and uploading these to a cloud is not really feasible).
When I factor all that in, the ideal device is a notebook PC.

To start with, the Apple A10X with M10 coprocessor is as fast for my needs as
most laptop/desktop machines, and in some cases faster.

I bought my new iPad with the 512GB option, more than enough to handle
100-150 GB of image files.

The manner with which the current generation of iPad /iOS 11
hardware/software integrates with the various cloud services is seamless, and
very feasable.

The battery gives me 10 hours of portability which slips easily into a camera
bag, and provides me with all the function I need on the road, and then some,
all with less weight and bulk than even a notebook PC.

By the way, I gave a try a while ago to the desktop version of Affinity
and wasn't impressed.

As for the desltop version of Affinity Photo, it is very good, but for
somebody who has the habit of a Lightroom/Photoshop workflow, it is for me a
little awkward. Affinity Photo for iPad is a very different animal to work
with, and is in many ways the best tablet editor I have yet encountered, and
in many ways better than many desktop editors. As I said, I have all the free
Adobe Mobile apps installed, along with Pixelmator, VSCO, and Snapseed,
currently my choice for on-the-road image editing is Affinity Photo for iPad.

--

Regards,
Savageduck

Affinity Photo for iPad
 

On Sep 23, 2017, Alan Browne wrote
(in ):

On 2017-09-23 04:51, Alfred Molon wrote:
In iganews.com,
Savageduck says...

I bought a new toy last week, a 10.5? iPad Pro, with 512 GB, the
keyboard, and Apple Pencil. My purpose was to update my old iPad2,
and to see how well it would fit in as a replacement for a laptop
for my photo travels.

I already had the Adobe Mobile Apps, Lightroom Mobile, Photoshop
Fix, and Photoshop Mix installed, and I had read good things
regarding Affinity Photo for iPad. So, I stepped and bought it. The
end result is, I am very impressed, it is so much more than the
desktop edition, which I find to have an awkward workflow. It is
built to integrate with the iCloud file, or any other app. For
example I can save an edited image to my iCloud Drive, and/or
Dropbox, and/or Lightroom Mobile, all of which can make the file
accessible across all my devices, and sync with desktop/laptop LR.

I can transfer image files RAW, and/or JPEG, to my iPad from my
X-E2, or X-T2 via WiFi.

So for any of you folks with an iPad I can highly recommend
Affinity Photo for iPad. Quite frankly I believe that it is
currently one of the best photo editing apps available for the iPad
along with the Adobe Mobile set, and Pixelmator.
https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/photo/ipad/

Just curious - why not a tablet with a 12" screen - or is that too
big? Would make it easier to edit high res images.

The difference between the 12 and 10.5" is not enough to matter when
portability on a long trip is factored in.

I had considered the 12�, but after working with one in the Apple store,
the portability factor kicked in, and I loose nothing but bulk and weight
with the 10.5�.

And well, a tablet for image editing, not sure how much sense that
makes.

Image editing on a tablet? Very natural interface.

Very much so.

Personally I need a fast processor, a screen as large/high res as

The ARM/GPU in the iPad's are very fast. Indeed it's a near
certainty that ARM will begin to replace intel in the Apple Mac line in
the coming years.

The A10X is amazingly fast.

possible and lots of storage (on a typical trip I take 100-150 GB of
image files, and uploading these to a cloud is not really feasible).
When I factor all that in, the ideal device is a notebook PC.

Hmm. 512 GB is quite a lot then. No issue. No cloud needed.

512 GB is as much as many laptops are provided with, and just incase I need a
little bit of extra storage I have a 128 GB Sandisk iXpand Flash drive, and
there is a 256 GB edition available.
https://www.sandisk.com/home/mobile-device-storage/ixpand

I can't speak about Affinity, but I can say that I will never buy an
Adobe photo editing product again.

In the 10 days I have been giving it a work out, I can say Affinity Photo for
iPad lacks for nothing.

--

Regards,
Savageduck

Affinity Photo for iPad
 

On Sep 23, 2017, PeterN wrote
(in article ):

On 9/23/2017 9:07 AM, Alan Browne wrote:

snip.


Hmm. 512 GB is quite a lot then. No issue. No cloud needed.

When I was traveling I looked into the iPad. Because of my workflow, it
didn't work for me. Remember, I use a high megapixel camera.

So far the iPad Pro is not choking on my 24.3 MP image files, and Affinity
Photo handles my RAFs, NEFs, and SOOC JPEGs well.


I can't speak about Affinity, but I can say that I will never buy an
Adobe photo editing product again.

I recently asked Topaz if they had any tutorials that might solve an
issue I was having with hair extraction using Re Mask, after they
updated it. First they suggested Clarity, to increase contrast. When I
pointed out that I had clarity and it did not work, they never answered
my support question. I plan to bring that issue up at Photo Expo in NY,
and continue looking on their forum. Meanwhile, Adobe is the best
around, if only because of their available support.

I am not a fan of Topaz, or Clarity.

--

Regards,
Savageduck

Affinity Photo for iPad
 

In article .com,
Savageduck wrote:


When I was traveling I looked into the iPad. Because of my workflow, it
didn't work for me. Remember, I use a high megapixel camera.

So far the iPad Pro is not choking on my 24.3 MP image files, and Affinity
Photo handles my RAFs, NEFs, and SOOC JPEGs well.

no reason why it would choke at all. it's *very* capable.

Affinity Photo for iPad
 

On Sep 23, 2017, nospam wrote
(in ) :

In iganews.com,
Savageduck wrote:


When I was traveling I looked into the iPad. Because of my workflow, it
didn't work for me. Remember, I use a high megapixel camera.

So far the iPad Pro is not choking on my 24.3 MP image files, and Affinity
Photo handles my RAFs, NEFs, and SOOC JPEGs well.

no reason why it would choke at all. it's *very* capable.

I know.
Why, when I have it sitting in front of me after 10 days of exercising it,
should I think otherwise?

--

Regards,
Savageduck

Affinity Photo for iPad
 

In article , Davoud says...
? You don't have to upload the image files to a cloud; the software
does it for you as you take the photos.

The problem is the connectivity. Often connections are slow and if you
have a 5GB package, you can't upload 100GB.

But again, in many interesting countries the Internet connections (both
mobile and fixed) are just too slow. Try doing a cloud upload in Papua
for instance.
--
Alfred Molon

Olympus E-series DSLRs and micro 4/3 forum at
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/
http://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site

Affinity Photo for iPad
 

In article .com,
Savageduck wrote:


When I was traveling I looked into the iPad. Because of my workflow, it
didn't work for me. Remember, I use a high megapixel camera.

So far the iPad Pro is not choking on my 24.3 MP image files, and Affinity
Photo handles my RAFs, NEFs, and SOOC JPEGs well.

no reason why it would choke at all. it's *very* capable.

I know.
Why, when I have it sitting in front of me after 10 days of exercising it,
should I think otherwise?

you obviously know what it can do.

many others do not, and consider the ipad to be somehow inferior and
incapable.

Affinity Photo for iPad
 

In article , Alfred Molon
wrote:

? You don't have to upload the image files to a cloud; the software
does it for you as you take the photos.

The problem is the connectivity. Often connections are slow and if you
have a 5GB package, you can't upload 100GB.

often connections are quite fast, but if not, use wifi.

or just keep everything local. with 512 gig of space, 100 gig won't
make much of a dent.

But again, in many interesting countries the Internet connections (both
mobile and fixed) are just too slow. Try doing a cloud upload in Papua
for instance.

how often are you in a location where there's no wifi or cellular,
where you've completely filled all of the 512 gig of the device, and
where you don't have any other local storage options, forcing you to
upload content to free up space?

likely never.

Affinity Photo for iPad
 

In article .com,
Savageduck says...

While there is a 12? iPad Pro available, the 10? is the better choice
when it comes to portability. The resolution provided by the Retina display
is superb. I can edit 6000 x 4000 images down to a pixel level if I need to.

Maybe your eyesight is better than mine, but if I have to go through
200-300 images in the evening, a big screen helps a lot. For my
purposes, a 10" screen is just too small. I cannot zoom in and out all
the time. Actually even 12" is too small. I'd like to have at least 14".

snip

To start with, the Apple A10X with M10 coprocessor is as fast for my needs as
most laptop/desktop machines, and in some cases faster.

But tablets are optimised for battery life, not performance. When you
quickly browse through hundreds of images, open RAWs for editing trying
out different settings, use panorama software to stitch images - that
all drains the battery quite a lot.

By the way, RAM also matters. 10 or more GB are very helpful in my case,
but I don't think there are tablets with that much RAM, are there?

snip

The battery gives me 10 hours of portability which slips easily into a camera
bag, and provides me with all the function I need on the road, and then some,
all with less weight and bulk than even a notebook PC.

But there is no need to lug around the tablet the whole day, while you
are taking pictures, right? Just leave it in the hotel, or why would you
want to carry it around?

Instead of the tablet you can bring along another lens, a flash or piece
of photo equipment, which improves your photo capture capability in the
field.
--
Alfred Molon

Olympus E-series DSLRs and micro 4/3 forum at
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/
http://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site

Affinity Photo for iPad
 

In article , Alfred
Molon wrote:

While there is a 12? iPad Pro available, the 10? is the better choice
when it comes to portability. The resolution provided by the Retina display
is superb. I can edit 6000 x 4000 images down to a pixel level if I need to.

Maybe your eyesight is better than mine, but if I have to go through
200-300 images in the evening, a big screen helps a lot. For my
purposes, a 10" screen is just too small. I cannot zoom in and out all
the time. Actually even 12" is too small. I'd like to have at least 14".

the bigger the display, the less portable it is.

To start with, the Apple A10X with M10 coprocessor is as fast for my needs
as
most laptop/desktop machines, and in some cases faster.

But tablets are optimised for battery life, not performance.

nope. an ipad pro is faster than most laptops.

When you
quickly browse through hundreds of images, open RAWs for editing trying
out different settings, use panorama software to stitch images - that
all drains the battery quite a lot.

nope.

ipads get over 10 hours on battery when pushed hard and longer if the
cpu is running on the efficiency cores (e.g., browsing images).

that's *better* battery life than most laptops, even when the laptop is
doing mundane tasks (i.e., minimal battery drain).

it's also *extremely* likely that any photo editing would be done
while plugged in and *not* on a battery, regardless of tablet or
laptop, so it doesn't make one bit of difference what the battery life
is.

By the way, RAM also matters. 10 or more GB are very helpful in my case,
but I don't think there are tablets with that much RAM, are there?

ram doesn't matter anywhere near as much as you think it does,
particularly for ipads (and iphones for that matter).

in real world use scenarios, ipads do exceptionally well, and in some
cases, faster than desktop systems.

The battery gives me 10 hours of portability which slips easily into a
camera
bag, and provides me with all the function I need on the road, and then
some,
all with less weight and bulk than even a notebook PC.

But there is no need to lug around the tablet the whole day, while you
are taking pictures, right? Just leave it in the hotel, or why would you
want to carry it around?

lug???

an ipad weighs 1 pound and fits in a jacket pocket. an ipad mini weighs
less and can fit in all but the smallest pockets.

why *wouldn't* you want to carry it around?

Instead of the tablet you can bring along another lens, a flash or piece
of photo equipment, which improves your photo capture capability in the
field.

a lens is bulkier and likely heavier than an ipad, and serves an
entirely different purpose.

bring both.

Affinity Photo for iPad
 

On Sep 23, 2017, Alfred Molon wrote
(in om):

In , Davoud says...
? You don't have to upload the image files to a cloud; the software
does it for you as you take the photos.

The problem is the connectivity. Often connections are slow and if you
have a 5GB package, you can't upload 100GB.

Then don’t bother with the cloud, use local storage on the iPad, or
supplemental storage with:
https://www.sandisk.com/home/mobile-device-storage/ixpand
....or one of these which works just fine with an iPad.
https://www.sandisk.com/home/mobile-device-storage/ixpand-base

But again, in many interesting countries the Internet connections (both
mobile and fixed) are just too slow. Try doing a cloud upload in Papua
for instance.

So what? Papua NG, or the Amazon Basin would be a very different road trip to
one in Europe, North America, or South Africa, so you would plan, and
provision differently. Different locations are going to have different
requirements, so you plan for them.

In December and January I spent a month away from home in the Netherlands and
South Africa, where I travelled light with all my computing needs dealt with
by a 256 GB iPhone 6S+, not an MBP, or notebook PC. If that iPhone could
handle things, I know that I am not going to have problems with an iPad Pro
with more memory, and a much more powerful processor.

--

Regards,
Savageduck

Affinity Photo for iPad
 

On Sep 23, 2017, Alfred Molon wrote
(in . com):

In iganews.com,
Savageduck says...

While there is a 12? iPad Pro available, the 10? is the better choice
when it comes to portability. The resolution provided by the Retina display
is superb. I can edit 6000 x 4000 images down to a pixel level if I need to.

Maybe your eyesight is better than mine, but if I have to go through
200-300 images in the evening, a big screen helps a lot. For my
purposes, a 10" screen is just too small. I cannot zoom in and out all
the time. Actually even 12" is too small. I'd like to have at least 14".

You are not going to know until you try. As much as I would love to have a
27� display on the road, I am not going to have that luxury. The 10.5�
iPad is pretty good, very good actually, especially after having my cataract
surgery. You don’t have to play the bad eyesight game with me.

I have my old 17� MBP which for what I need these days is too bulky and too
heavy, and is not able to run the latest MacOS. I will stick with my new iPad
Pro.

snip

To start with, the Apple A10X with M10 coprocessor is as fast for my needs
as
most laptop/desktop machines, and in some cases faster.

But tablets are optimised for battery life, not performance.

Actually they are optimized for both battery life, and performance.

When you
quickly browse through hundreds of images, open RAWs for editing trying
out different settings, use panorama software to stitch images - that
all drains the battery quite a lot.

Strangely enough, Lightroom Mobile makes browsing through hundreds of images
a simple task, and it along with Affinity Photo for iPad are just two apps
which handle panorama stitching quite efficiently and quickly.

By the way, RAM also matters. 10 or more GB are very helpful in my case,
but I don't think there are tablets with that much RAM, are there?

On a desktop, or laptop certainly. However, tablets, especially the iPad
manages things a little differently by optimizing what they have to work
with.

snip

The battery gives me 10 hours of portability which slips easily into a
camera
bag, and provides me with all the function I need on the road, and then
some,
all with less weight and bulk than even a notebook PC.

But there is no need to lug around the tablet the whole day, while you
are taking pictures, right? Just leave it in the hotel, or why would you
want to carry it around?

There is no need to lug it around, but if you needed to the bit of added
weight is negligible.

Instead of the tablet you can bring along another lens, a flash or piece
of photo equipment, which improves your photo capture capability in the
field.

With my Fujifilm set up, I have my camera, 4 lenses, extra batteries, some
filters, and a few other goodies which all fit handily into my Domke bag.
Moreover, I could if need be, slip the iPad into the back sleave of the bag.

--

Regards,
Savageduck

Affinity Photo for iPad
 

On 2017-09-23 09:56, PeterN wrote:
On 9/23/2017 9:07 AM, Alan Browne wrote:


snip.


Hmm.* 512 GB is quite a lot then.* No issue.* No cloud needed.

When I was traveling I looked into the iPad. Because of my workflow, it
didn't work for me. Remember, I use a high megapixel camera.

What's high? What size raw file?

On an iPad one could easily allocate 400 GB to photography. Say 30 MB
per image. That would be 13000+ images. Say you cut that in half so
you can do lot's of roadshow editing. How long does it take to fill
6500 images that are probably worth keeping?

In photography one tends to reduce stuff carried around that is not
specific to photography. An iPad v. laptop is a no brainer.

Affinity Photo for iPad
 

On 2017-09-23 11:16, Alfred Molon wrote:
In article .com,
Savageduck says...

While there is a 12? iPad Pro available, the 10? is the better choice
when it comes to portability. The resolution provided by the Retina display
is superb. I can edit 6000 x 4000 images down to a pixel level if I need to.

Maybe your eyesight is better than mine, but if I have to go through
200-300 images in the evening, a big screen helps a lot. For my
purposes, a 10" screen is just too small. I cannot zoom in and out all
the time. Actually even 12" is too small. I'd like to have at least 14".

Then get the iPad 12". Solved easily. Or reading glasses.

But there is no need to lug around the tablet the whole day, while you
are taking pictures, right? Just leave it in the hotel, or why would you
want to carry it around?

One wouldn't. You brought up the notion of traveling with an iPad or
laptop. The lightest, least bulky solution is an iPad. (That said, a
Macbook Air is hardly much larger).

Instead of the tablet you can bring along another lens, a flash or piece
of photo equipment, which improves your photo capture capability in the
field.

Of course. But you would not likely bring a laptop into the field
either, so it's a non argument when comparing iPad to laptop.

Affinity Photo for iPad
 

In article , Alan Browne
says...
Of course. But you would not likely bring a laptop into the field
either, so it's a non argument when comparing iPad to laptop.

But then, if size and weight are not an issue, just travel with a 15.6"
notebook PC and enjoy the much larger screen and the full power of a PC.
--
Alfred Molon

Olympus E-series DSLRs and micro 4/3 forum at
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/
http://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site

Affinity Photo for iPad
 

On 2017-09-23 14:44, Alfred Molon wrote:
In article , Alan Browne
says...
Of course. But you would not likely bring a laptop into the field
either, so it's a non argument when comparing iPad to laptop.

But then, if size and weight are not an issue, just travel with a 15.6"
notebook PC and enjoy the much larger screen and the full power of a PC.

And the size, weight and bulk of it and its power supply. Been through
a two transfer intercontinental flight recently?

TANSTAAFL.

Affinity Photo for iPad
 

In article , Alfred Molon
wrote:

Of course. But you would not likely bring a laptop into the field
either, so it's a non argument when comparing iPad to laptop.

But then, if size and weight are not an issue, just travel with a 15.6"
notebook PC

with less space in luggage for other stuff, possibly running into
weight limits on some airlines.

an ipad fits in a jacket pocket and they don't weigh jackets.

try putting a 15" laptop in a jacket. good luck on that.

and enjoy the much larger screen and the full power of a PC.

ipad pros are more powerful than most laptops.

Affinity Photo for iPad
 

On 23/09/2017 17:09, Savageduck wrote:
[] You are not going to know until you try.
That's the essence of it!

--
Cheers,
David
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu

Affinity Photo for iPad
 

On Sep 23, 2017, Alfred Molon wrote
(in . com):

In iganews.com,
Savageduck says...

While there is a 12? iPad Pro available, the 10? is the better choice
when it comes to portability. The resolution provided by the Retina display
is superb. I can edit 6000 x 4000 images down to a pixel level if I need to.

Maybe your eyesight is better than mine, but if I have to go through
200-300 images in the evening, a big screen helps a lot. For my
purposes, a 10" screen is just too small. I cannot zoom in and out all
the time. Actually even 12" is too small. I'd like to have at least 14".

snip

To start with, the Apple A10X with M10 coprocessor is as fast for my needs
as
most laptop/desktop machines, and in some cases faster.

But tablets are optimised for battery life, not performance. When you
quickly browse through hundreds of images, open RAWs for editing trying
out different settings, use panorama software to stitch images - that
all drains the battery quite a lot.

Just for the Hell of it, since I had yet to stitch a panorama with Affinity
Photo on the iPad Pro I thought I should at least say I had done it.

To start with I took this sequence of three shots from last year, and from my
desktop, dropped them into an iCloud folder.

I then went to the iPad and opened Affinity Photo - selected New Panorama,
and selected the three shots for stitching. Created the uncropped pano.
Cleaned up the crop so that the image is ready for any adjustments.

Other than picking out the shots on my desktop, the entire iPad pano
stitching operation took less than one minute.

Here is how things happened on the iPad.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lu9r03r0p97fbju/AAD4Y4UwhMROPrL3oJXs94Txa

--

Regards,
Savageduck

Affinity Photo for iPad
 

In article .com,
Savageduck wrote:

To start with, the Apple A10X with M10 coprocessor is as fast for my needs
as most laptop/desktop machines, and in some cases faster.

But tablets are optimised for battery life, not performance. When you
quickly browse through hundreds of images, open RAWs for editing trying
out different settings, use panorama software to stitch images - that
all drains the battery quite a lot.

Just for the Hell of it, since I had yet to stitch a panorama with Affinity
Photo on the iPad Pro I thought I should at least say I had done it.

how much battery did it use?

Affinity Photo for iPad
 

On Sep 23, 2017, David Taylor wrote
(in article ):

On 23/09/2017 17:09, Savageduck wrote:
[] You are not going to know until you try.
That's the essence of it!

You are correct. That is the essence of it.

I bought the iPad Pro, updated to iOS 11. Loaded it with software I have
used, and software I am learning such as Affinity Photo. I am running all
sorts of road tests, and I know it will do the job because I have tried it.

--

Regards,
Savageduck

Affinity Photo for iPad
 

On Sep 23, 2017, nospam wrote
(in ) :

In iganews.com,
Savageduck wrote:

To start with, the Apple A10X with M10 coprocessor is as fast for my needs
as most laptop/desktop machines, and in some cases faster.

But tablets are optimised for battery life, not performance. When you
quickly browse through hundreds of images, open RAWs for editing trying
out different settings, use panorama software to stitch images - that
all drains the battery quite a lot.

Just for the Hell of it, since I had yet to stitch a panorama with Affinity
Photo on the iPad Pro I thought I should at least say I had done it.

how much battery did it use?

Zip! I started the pano with 100% and ended with 100%.

I have been doing some other screwing around on the iPad with the Camera Roll
and some iOS 11 features since doing that pano, and it is now at 98%.

--

Regards,
Savageduck

Affinity Photo for iPad
 

In article .com,
Savageduck wrote:


To start with, the Apple A10X with M10 coprocessor is as fast for my
needs as most laptop/desktop machines, and in some cases faster.

But tablets are optimised for battery life, not performance. When you
quickly browse through hundreds of images, open RAWs for editing trying
out different settings, use panorama software to stitch images - that
all drains the battery quite a lot.

Just for the Hell of it, since I had yet to stitch a panorama with
Affinity Photo on the iPad Pro I thought I should at least say I had done it.

how much battery did it use?

Zip! I started the pano with 100% and ended with 100%.

it's not zip. it just means it's less than 1%, possibly less than 0.5%
depending whether it rounds off versus truncates.

I have been doing some other screwing around on the iPad with the Camera Roll
and some iOS 11 features since doing that pano, and it is now at 98%.

yep. battery life is *not* an issue.

Affinity Photo for iPad
 

In article , Alan Browne
says...
And the size, weight and bulk of it and its power supply. Been through
a two transfer intercontinental flight recently?

Yes, just came back from Malaysia with a 15,6" notebook. The weight was
2kg - not a big deal. The power supply is a small thing.
--
Alfred Molon

Olympus E-series DSLRs and micro 4/3 forum at
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/
http://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site

Affinity Photo for iPad
 

Alan Browne:
I can't speak about Affinity, but I can say that I will never buy an
Adobe photo editing product again.

Stop me if you've heard this one.

If any of the following is true

€ you are a professional
€ you are an amateur
€ your photographs are important to you
€ you have a large number of photographs to manage
€ you prefer doing things the easy way

then you are cutting off your nose to spite your face if you are
boycotting Adobe for some reason.

But‹it's your nose and your face.

--
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

Affinity Photo for iPad
 

In article , Alfred
Molon wrote:

And the size, weight and bulk of it and its power supply. Been through
a two transfer intercontinental flight recently?

Yes, just came back from Malaysia with a 15,6" notebook. The weight was
2kg - not a big deal. The power supply is a small thing.

now compare that with an ipad pro at 477g or an ipad mini at 304g.
then compare which one fits in a jacket pocket.

its power supply is any 5v usb adapter, such as the one you already
have for your phone. in other words, nothing extra to bring.

Affinity Photo for iPad
 

On 9/23/2017 12:14 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2017-09-23 09:56, PeterN wrote:
On 9/23/2017 9:07 AM, Alan Browne wrote:


snip.


Hmm.* 512 GB is quite a lot then.* No issue.* No cloud needed.

When I was traveling I looked into the iPad. Because of my workflow,
it didn't work for me. Remember, I use a high megapixel camera.

What's high?* What size raw file?

On an iPad one could easily allocate 400 GB to photography.* Say 30 MB
per image.* That would be 13000+ images.* Say you cut that in half so
you can do lot's of roadshow editing.* How long does it take to fill
6500 images that are probably worth keeping?

In photography one tends to reduce stuff carried around that is not
specific to photography.* An iPad v. laptop is a no brainer.

RAW size for a D800

Image quality Image size File size*2
FX (36x24)*1
NEF (RAW), Lossless compressed, 12-bit - 32.4 MB
NEF (RAW), Lossless compressed, 14-bit - 41.3 MB
NEF (RAW), Compressed, 12-bit - 29.0 MB

Also, there were times I wanted to do some procession. My laptop had a
17" screen. The iPad also belongs to my wife. Every day I took the days
shooting, and downloaded it onto the Notebook, and backed up to 2
portable HDs. If I did any processing the file size increased.

--
PeterN

Affinity Photo for iPad
 

On Sep 23, 2017, PeterN wrote
(in article ):

On 9/23/2017 12:14 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2017-09-23 09:56, PeterN wrote:
On 9/23/2017 9:07 AM, Alan Browne wrote:


snip.


Hmm. 512 GB is quite a lot then. No issue. No cloud needed.

When I was traveling I looked into the iPad. Because of my workflow,
it didn't work for me. Remember, I use a high megapixel camera.

What's high? What size raw file?

On an iPad one could easily allocate 400 GB to photography. Say 30 MB
per image. That would be 13000+ images. Say you cut that in half so
you can do lot's of roadshow editing. How long does it take to fill
6500 images that are probably worth keeping?

In photography one tends to reduce stuff carried around that is not
specific to photography. An iPad v. laptop is a no brainer.

RAW size for a D800

Image quality Image size File size*2
FX (36x24)*1
NEF (RAW), Lossless compressed, 12-bit - 32.4 MB
NEF (RAW), Lossless compressed, 14-bit - 41.3 MB
NEF (RAW), Compressed, 12-bit - 29.0 MB

Also, there were times I wanted to do some procession. My laptop had a
17" screen. The iPad also belongs to my wife. Every day I took the days
shooting, and downloaded it onto the Notebook, and backed up to 2
portable HDs. If I did any processing the file size increased.

....and you also have your D500.
As for me and the iPad with the X-T2 APS-C, 6000 x 4000 files I have this:

RAF (RAW) uncompressed 14-bit = 50.6 MB
RAF (RAW) lossless compressed 14-bit = 21-25 MB

JPEG, content dependant SOOC, = 10.1-15.6 MB

The iPad Pro with 512 GB on board does just fine with those files.

--

Regards,
Savageduck

Affinity Photo for iPad
 

On 23/09/2017 17:09, Savageduck wrote:
On Sep 23, 2017, Alfred Molon wrote

snip

The battery gives me 10 hours of portability which slips easily into a
camera
bag, and provides me with all the function I need on the road, and then
some,
all with less weight and bulk than even a notebook PC.

But there is no need to lug around the tablet the whole day, while you
are taking pictures, right? Just leave it in the hotel, or why would you
want to carry it around?

There is no need to lug it around, but if you needed to the bit of added
weight is negligible.

Instead of the tablet you can bring along another lens, a flash or piece
of photo equipment, which improves your photo capture capability in the
field.

With my Fujifilm set up, I have my camera, 4 lenses, extra batteries, some
filters, and a few other goodies which all fit handily into my Domke bag.
Moreover, I could if need be, slip the iPad into the back sleave of the bag.


JOOI, what sort of case do you use for the iPad?

I've had a succession of iPads - wonderful things. But I've never found
a case that protects the iPad without doubling the bulk and adding about
half to the weight.

Of course, we all have a different view of 'protect'.

--
Cheers, Rob

Affinity Photo for iPad
 

On 23/09/2017 20:53, Savageduck wrote:
On Sep 23, 2017, Alfred Molon wrote
(in . com):

In iganews.com,
Savageduck says...

While there is a 12? iPad Pro available, the 10? is the better choice
when it comes to portability. The resolution provided by the Retina display
is superb. I can edit 6000 x 4000 images down to a pixel level if I need to.

Maybe your eyesight is better than mine, but if I have to go through
200-300 images in the evening, a big screen helps a lot. For my
purposes, a 10" screen is just too small. I cannot zoom in and out all
the time. Actually even 12" is too small. I'd like to have at least 14".

snip

To start with, the Apple A10X with M10 coprocessor is as fast for my needs
as
most laptop/desktop machines, and in some cases faster.

But tablets are optimised for battery life, not performance. When you
quickly browse through hundreds of images, open RAWs for editing trying
out different settings, use panorama software to stitch images - that
all drains the battery quite a lot.

Just for the Hell of it, since I had yet to stitch a panorama with Affinity
Photo on the iPad Pro I thought I should at least say I had done it.

To start with I took this sequence of three shots from last year, and from my
desktop, dropped them into an iCloud folder.

I then went to the iPad and opened Affinity Photo - selected New Panorama,
and selected the three shots for stitching. Created the uncropped pano.
Cleaned up the crop so that the image is ready for any adjustments.

Other than picking out the shots on my desktop, the entire iPad pano
stitching operation took less than one minute.

Here is how things happened on the iPad.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lu9r03r0p97fbju/AAD4Y4UwhMROPrL3oJXs94Txa


Impressive! But those are 1MB files - do things slow up a lot with 30MB
RAW files?

--
Cheers, Rob