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The right darkroom book?
Curious if there is a current book that covers film 'developing' on subjects such as the effects that specific developers will have of specific films and such, like bring- ing out the best sharpness and contrasty tonality with shadow detail. The idea is a specialist book of teaching these things, I am no expert and have had very little experience in the long past... I looked in Border's books, the only two I could find were AA's 'The Negative' (too old?) and 'The Darkroom Handbook' which looked really old (as new). Maybe either book are kept up in revision? Would either book cover the current World's compilation of chemicals and films? Any help very much appreciated, -- Giant_Alex })))* not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/ |
The right darkroom book?
When I worked in the darkroom I was very happy with the:
Post Exposure (Advanved Techniques for the Photographic Printer) Written by "CTEIN" (Focal Press) The 2nd edition I have is from year 2000. Max "AAvK" skrev i en meddelelse ... Curious if there is a current book that covers film 'developing' on subjects such as the effects that specific developers will have of specific films and such, like bring- ing out the best sharpness and contrasty tonality with shadow detail. The idea is a specialist book of teaching these things, I am no expert and have had very little experience in the long past... I looked in Border's books, the only two I could find were AA's 'The Negative' (too old?) and 'The Darkroom Handbook' which looked really old (as new). Maybe either book are kept up in revision? Would either book cover the current World's compilation of chemicals and films? Any help very much appreciated, -- Giant_Alex })))* not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/ |
The right darkroom book?
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:40:16 -0800, "AAvK"
wrote: Curious if there is a current book that covers film 'developing' on subjects such as the effects that specific developers will have of specific films and such, like bring- ing out the best sharpness and contrasty tonality with shadow detail. The idea is a specialist book of teaching these things, I am no expert and have had very little experience in the long past... I looked in Border's books, the only two I could find were AA's 'The Negative' (too old?) and 'The Darkroom Handbook' which looked really old (as new). Maybe either book are kept up in revision? Would either book cover the current World's compilation of chemicals and films? Any help very much appreciated, Most authors have moved on to the field of digital imaging though in truth I don't think materials have changed much in the last 5~10 years since the digital desimation. You might consider some of the following The Darkroom Cookbook Author : Stephen G. Anchell Publisher : Elsevier Science & Technology Book ISBN 0240804236 The Film Developing Cookbook : Advanced Techniques for Film Developing Authors : Bill Troop & Stephen Anchell Publisher : Focal Press ISBN: 0240802772 The Darkroom Handbook Author : Michael John Langford Publisher : Knopf Publishing Group ISBN 0394724682 The Photographers Handbook Author : John Hedgecoe Publisher : Knopf Publishing Group ISBN 0679742042 Beyond the Zone System Author : Phil Davis Publisher : Focal Press ISBN 0240803434 John www.darkroompro.com |
The right darkroom book?
AAvK wrote:
Curious if there is a current book that covers film 'developing' on subjects such as the effects that specific developers will have of specific films and such, like bring- ing out the best sharpness and contrasty tonality with shadow detail. The idea is a specialist book of teaching these things, I am no expert and have had very little experience in the long past... I looked in Border's books, the only two I could find were AA's 'The Negative' (too old?) Photographic principles have not changed much since Ansel Adams wrote his books. The more recent editions (since 1981) of "The Negative" and "The Print" mainly reflect the newer materials available since the first edition was printed. Since that time, really good papers, such as Kodak's Elite, have disappeared due to decreasing demand and, allegedly, environmental concerns. There were no data for Kodak's TMax films yet; IIRC, they came out around 1982. and 'The Darkroom Handbook' which looked really old (as new). Maybe either book are kept up in revision? Would either book cover the current World's compilation of chemicals and films? The principles will be fine. The actual materials can be a little different, but in any case, you would need to run tests to cover your particular equipment and procedures. Any help very much appreciated, -- .~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642. /V\ PGP-Key: 9A2FC99A Registered Machine 241939. /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org ^^-^^ 10:55:01 up 10 days, 17:06, 1 user, load average: 4.02, 4.18, 4.16 |
The right darkroom book?
"Jean-David Beyer" wrote in message
news:QtXvj.1700$Hd.679@trnddc02... AAvK wrote: [...] Photographic principles have not changed much since Ansel Adams wrote his books. The more recent editions (since 1981) of "The Negative" and "The Print" mainly reflect the newer materials available since the first edition was printed. Jean-David, does the most recent version of The Print include VC papers? As an aside, our local library has a great old book on paper flashing as a means to control contrast range. But Agfa #6 is long gone. |
The right darkroom book?
On Feb 22, 9:06*pm, John wrote:
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:40:16 -0800, "AAvK" wrote: Curious if there is a current book that covers film 'developing' on subjects such as the effects that specific developers will have of specific films and such, like bring- ing out the best sharpness and contrasty tonality with shadow detail. The idea is a specialist book of teaching these things, I am no expert and have had very little experience in the long past... I looked in Border's books, the only two I could find were AA's 'The Negative' (too old?) and 'The Darkroom Handbook' which looked really old (as new). *Maybe either book are kept up in revision? Would either book cover the current World's compilation of chemicals and films? Any help very much appreciated, Most authors have moved on to the field of digital imaging though in truth I don't think materials have changed much in the last 5~10 years since the digital desimation. You might consider some of the following The Darkroom Cookbook Author : Stephen G. Anchell Publisher : Elsevier Science & Technology Book ISBN 0240804236 The Film Developing Cookbook : Advanced Techniques for Film Developing Authors : Bill Troop & Stephen Anchell Publisher : Focal Press ISBN: 0240802772 The Darkroom Handbook Author : Michael John Langford Publisher : Knopf Publishing Group ISBN 0394724682 The Photographers Handbook Author : John Hedgecoe Publisher : Knopf Publishing Group ISBN 0679742042 Beyond the Zone System Author : Phil Davis Publisher : Focal Press ISBN 0240803434 Johnwww.darkroompro.com Thanks for the list, but what became of www.darkroompro.com ? |
The right darkroom book?
On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 23:29:38 -0800 (PST), Peter
wrote: Thanks for the list, but what became of www.darkroompro.com ? It's still there of course but I'm waiting for the old registrar (Godaddy) to release the domain name to the new registrar (Webmasters.com) where I'm going to be hosting the domain going forward. Unfortunately there is a 4 day holding period from the date the registrar receives the authorzation to release the domain. Also, once this was done I couldn't update the servers information so the domain still resolves to Dreahost.com which was the previous webhost. It should be released on Tuesday or Wednesday and I'll get everything back in order by Friday. In the meantime I've temporarliy uploaded everything to one of my secondary domains at www.xs750.net JD |
The right darkroom book?
jjs wrote:
"Jean-David Beyer" wrote in message news:QtXvj.1700$Hd.679@trnddc02... AAvK wrote: [...] Photographic principles have not changed much since Ansel Adams wrote his books. The more recent editions (since 1981) of "The Negative" and "The Print" mainly reflect the newer materials available since the first edition was printed. Jean-David, does the most recent version of The Print include VC papers? Mine is copyright 1983. The index cites "Variable-contrast papers 26, 30, 31, 48, 121-123. As an aside, our local library has a great old book on paper flashing as a means to control contrast range. But Agfa #6 is long gone. He also discusses this in three paragraphs on page 123. -- .~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642. /V\ PGP-Key: 9A2FC99A Registered Machine 241939. /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org ^^-^^ 17:25:01 up 11 days, 23:36, 1 user, load average: 4.05, 4.07, 4.07 |
The right darkroom book?
jjs wrote: "Jean-David Beyer" wrote in message news:QtXvj.1700$Hd.679@trnddc02... AAvK wrote: [...] Photographic principles have not changed much since Ansel Adams wrote his books. The more recent editions (since 1981) of "The Negative" and "The Print" mainly reflect the newer materials available since the first edition was printed. Jean-David, does the most recent version of The Print include VC papers? As an aside, our local library has a great old book on paper flashing as a means to control contrast range. But Agfa #6 is long gone. Hello, An interesting source are the books that date from before WWII and the early 50's. I have a collection of them. Pick them up at garage sales and flea markets. As somebody pointed out, photo techniques, per se, have not changed, give or take, there new films , papers but the basic techniques are valid. The majority of these books are addressed to amateur photography enthusiats, phoot club members, kids in highschool, so everything had to be well explained, step by step, what happens with each step and its relative importance, darkroom tips, loads of formulas for everything and anything. You find a lot of them in "The DarkRoom CookBook". They have diagrams for wiring, building a darkroom, plumbing, everything that a kid needs to know on how to build a darkroom with the help of his dad. I find a lot of interesting ideas, techniques that are no longer used and forgotten The chemistry is not overly academic. They give what you need to know. When I was a kid, we used to read "Popular Mechanics" and and there would be articles on how to build you own enlarger, using tomato cans, magnifying glass, light bulb and what not. Great fun. Cheers, Bogdan -- __________________________________________________ ______________ Bogdan Karasek Montr‚al, Qu‚bec Canada www.bogdanphoto.com "I bear witness" __________________________________________________ ______________ |
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