What is the oldest digital pic you have on your computer?
 

On Fri, 09 Dec 2011 18:29:44 -0800, Annika1980 wrote:

This question got me to thinking. I started shooting digitally about 10
years ago, but many of my early efforts (taken with a 2.1MP Kodak) are
stored away on some CDs somewhere or in an old hard drive I don't even
have easy access to these days.

Digital as in "taken on a digital sensor", or digital as in "a JPEG file
of a photo you took". I started getting my 35mm negs "scanned to CD"
soon after the local developer shop got the featu 1997-ish?

I wasn't very good at keeping track of these, though. There is only one
shot (of my dog, of course) from 17 June 1997. No idea where the rest
are.

Only started *shooting* digitally in about 2003. I think I still have
all bar the ones I've deliberately deleted on-line.

Cheers,

--
Andrew

What is the oldest digital pic you have on your computer?
 

On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 09:07:27 -0800, Annika1980 wrote:

On Dec 11, 6:53Â*am, Andrew Reilly wrote:

Digital as in "taken on a digital sensor", or digital as in "a JPEG
file of a photo you took". Â*I started getting my 35mm negs "scanned to
CD" soon after the local developer shop got the featu 1997-ish?

I was referring to pictures taken digitally.
However, one of my favorite things to do is to look at very old slides.
Here's a Kodachrome from 1948 that looks like it was taken yesterday,
except that house isn't there any more.
http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/73548875

Here's one more I like, probably from the same era.
http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/88326548

Nice colours! My father scanned a lot of his old slides recently, and
while the family historical significance of many of them is great, the
colours are often not. Did you do much post-processing to get "modern-
looking" colours in those, or did they just pop out of the slide scanner
that way? (I think that my Dad was more of an Ectachrome than a
Kodachrome user, perhaps that's a reason...)

Cheers,

--
Andrew

What is the oldest digital pic you have on your computer?
 

On 14/12/2011 1:45 PM, Noons wrote:
On Dec 14, 1:31 pm, Andrew wrote:

colours are often not. Did you do much post-processing to get "modern-
looking" colours in those, or did they just pop out of the slide scanner
that way? (I think that my Dad was more of an Ectachrome than a
Kodachrome user, perhaps that's a reason...)


This:
http://wizofoz2k.deviantart.com/gall...62387#/d2siakz
is 1980s Ekta64.
Same he
http://wizofoz2k.deviantart.com/gall...62387#/d2shc03
No colour post-processing, just scanning and colour balancing at the
scanner level. Yes: I do grain reduction - with NeatImage - but that's
got nothing to do with colour balance.

A lot of people forget that many of the pictorial images still being
used in up market magazines were shot with slide film. How quaint that
you get accused of manipulating your images from the kink of
manipulation himself.

Chloe...
See my portrait in Young and Jacksons... It hangs over the bar!

What is the oldest digital pic you have on your computer?
 

On 23/12/2011 2:25 PM, Annika1980 wrote:
On Dec 13, 9:31 pm, Andrew wrote:
On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 09:07:27 -0800, Annika1980 wrote:
On Dec 11, 6:53 am, Andrew wrote:

Digital as in "taken on a digital sensor", or digital as in "a JPEG
file of a photo you took". I started getting my 35mm negs "scanned to
CD" soon after the local developer shop got the featu 1997-ish?

I was referring to pictures taken digitally.
However, one of my favorite things to do is to look at very old slides.
Here's a Kodachrome from 1948 that looks like it was taken yesterday,
except that house isn't there any more.
http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/73548875

Here's one more I like, probably from the same era.
http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/88326548

Nice colours! My father scanned a lot of his old slides recently, and
while the family historical significance of many of them is great, the
colours are often not. Did you do much post-processing to get "modern-
looking" colours in those, or did they just pop out of the slide scanner
that way? (I think that my Dad was more of an Ectachrome than a
Kodachrome user, perhaps that's a reason...)


Kodachrome holds it's colors with proper storage. Most Ektachromes
I've seen are badly faded into Magenta land.

Film that turns magenta has probably been stored in manufactured timber
produces that were created by bonding chips of wood glued together with
adhesives made from formaldehyde. Illegal now in the USA but still sold
in Australia.

To preserve film you only need store it in a plain old tin box, a
cardboard shoe box or a real timber box made with traditional (melted)
glue. It's when you start storing it in "modern" material products that
it produces problems. Plastic sleeves are another no,no for storing film
yet nearly every sheet of film I get for restoration is stuck to plastic
sleeves.

Kodak have for many years sold a product that recovers magenta faded
film colours. In fact Epson Flat Bed and Nikon film scanners - even the
$95 film scanners being sold in department stores has a switch to
recover lost colours.

That Minolta scanner of yours Bret, -if it still works, has a selectable
switch to recover faded colours. How many times has it died now BTW?

What is the oldest digital pic you have on your computer?
 

Chloe wrote,on my timestamp of 24/12/2011 3:49 PM:


A lot of people forget that many of the pictorial images still being used in up
market magazines were shot with slide film. How quaint that you get accused of
manipulating your images from the kink of manipulation himself.

Yeah, but:
1- I never denied I manipulate film scans to improve them.
2- You think I manipulate my film images?
You should see what some folks do to their digital images...
Just about every "creamy bokeh" background you see is fake!

What is the oldest digital pic you have on your computer?
 

On 25/12/2011 12:33 PM, Noons wrote:
Chloe wrote,on my timestamp of 24/12/2011 3:49 PM:


A lot of people forget that many of the pictorial images still being
used in up
market magazines were shot with slide film. How quaint that you get
accused of
manipulating your images from the kink of manipulation himself.

Yeah, but:
1- I never denied I manipulate film scans to improve them.
2- You think I manipulate my film images?
You should see what some folks do to their digital images...
Just about every "creamy bokeh" background you see is fake!

All my digital images are manipulated in the extreme and most of my
scans are. Have been since computers became capable editing machines.
I was referring to Bret and his heavily worked over shots, not you Noons.

What is the oldest digital pic you have on your computer?
 

On 27/12/2011 1:08 AM, Annika1980 wrote:
On Dec 24, 12:00 am, wrote:

That Minolta scanner of yours Bret, -if it still works, has a selectable
switch to recover faded colours. How many times has it died now BTW?

Which one?

Don't think any of them had any such switch, however.

Diamage Scan Elite II came with Kodak's "Digital ROC" (Restoration Of
Color).

Maybe not a physical switch but a software one you can switch on and
off. Unless you had/have the cheap version that was almost as good a
scanner but lacked the software and a few functions seldom used by non
specialists.

Most people who scan a lot use Ed Hamrick's Vue Scan anyway. I've had
that software since about 1999, updating it at every new version. It
pretty much works seamlessly at restoring colors.

We scan anywhere between 10 and 1,000 slides and negatives a week. Many
of the old Kodachromes are in worse condition than Agfa and Konica film
but recovering all but the worst stained ones is a breeze with Kodak's
software.

You might not know but last year Brisbane in Queensland Australia was
flooded when the spillway on Brisbane river was opened to protect the
dam wall. All the specialist labs will be working for many years
restoring treasured family memories damaged in the floods. Its all
insurance stuff.

What is the oldest digital pic you have on your computer?
 

On 28/12/2011 8:39 AM, Bruce wrote:
On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 15:28:37 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Dec 27, 6:02 am, wrote:

You might not know but last year Brisbane in Queensland Australia was
flooded when the spillway on Brisbane river was opened to protect the
dam wall. All the specialist labs will be working for many years
restoring treasured family memories damaged in the floods. Its all
insurance stuff.

Ah-hah! That's why used scanners in ebay have gone through the roof!
:-)


Are you really suggesting that the high prices that slide scanners
fetch on eBay across the world is solely due to a little local
difficulty in Brisbane? :-)


Bruce...
Consider not Brisbane but the whole of Queensland. The cyclonic damage
that wiped out most of north Queensland and its holiday resorts was far
greater than the damage done when the river flooded. Add the two
together and you'll come up with a sizable number of "priceless
memories" Insurance companies are negotiating with labs like mine to
recover.

I'm not sure about the world price for film scanners but something has
happened that caused quality film scanners like my Nikons to suddenly
make the used value worth the price I paid for them 5 years ago.

What is the oldest digital pic you have on your computer?
 

On 12/28/2011 6:24 PM, Noons wrote:

I wonder how long it'll take Pacific Imaging to buy the smouldering
remains and sell them?
Given they clearly can make moolah out of Nikon's stupidity.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc... rmat_CCD.html

I ended up with an 8000ED with VueScan software. It's loud
and awkward for scanning 645 negatives, but I'm happy with the
quality.

--
Mike Benveniste -- (Clarification Required)
You don't have to sort of enhance reality. There is nothing
stranger than truth. -- Annie Leibovitz

What is the oldest digital pic you have on your computer?
 

On 29/12/2011 9:30 AM, Mike Benveniste wrote:
On 12/28/2011 6:24 PM, Noons wrote:

I wonder how long it'll take Pacific Imaging to buy the smouldering
remains and sell them?
Given they clearly can make moolah out of Nikon's stupidity.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc... rmat_CCD.html


I ended up with an 8000ED with VueScan software. It's loud
and awkward for scanning 645 negatives, but I'm happy with the
quality.


LOL. That's a neat knock off or a re-badged Nikon.
I've been using an Epson wet Flatbed for anything over 35mm.