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[email protected] November 1st 05 07:28 AM

spotting black and white prints
 
What is the trick (s) for spotting RC paper?


Gregory Blank November 1st 05 11:55 AM

spotting black and white prints
 
In article .com,
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What is the trick (s) for spotting RC paper?


PATIENCE :-)

A (000) sable hair brush, Spotone or other retouch
dye the color of the particular color B&W print you have.

A clean cup of water, and dish to dilute the dye,
a good ole paper towel to absorb extra dye from the brush.

Good but not too bright light to work in. Under work the area and build
up to the final density to match the density you desire.

Making a few extra prints of the same shot in case you flub one to the
point the dye won't wash back out completely.

Remembering NOT to try and rewash and fix the final art.

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is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

Alan Smithee November 1st 05 01:42 PM

spotting black and white prints
 
wrote:
What is the trick (s) for spotting RC paper?


If you make a mistake with RC paper you can use a bath of Agfa Sistan Image
Stabiliser to "erase" your spot tones -- and then start over.



Jean-David Beyer November 1st 05 01:49 PM

spotting black and white prints
 
wrote:
What is the trick (s) for spotting RC paper?

Getting all the dust off the negative prior to exposure of the negative
(preventing black spots) and getting all the dust off the negative prior to
exposure of the print (preventing white spots).

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R.W. Behan November 1st 05 05:13 PM

spotting black and white prints
 
If you use Spot Tone, try a bit of Photo Flo in the solution.

But there's something far superior to Spot Tone, in my experience. A set of
10 pens, called SpotPen, are much easier to use. They're pens with very
fine felt tips, and loaded with dye (similar to Spot Tone) of varying
densities, from nearly-white to nearly-black. First you choose the pen with
the shade of gray that matches the background of your white spots, and then
you use them just like the sable brush--adding dots of dye until the spot
disappears.

Neat, quick, simple, effective--even on RC papers.

Good luck.

Dick Behan



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Nicholas O. Lindan November 1st 05 06:11 PM

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What is the trick (s) for spotting RC paper?


A 'boom' stereo zoom microscope:

ebay item 7558542166 [paste # into 'search' field on ebay.com]

Can often be had for $150, less at live auctions.

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Gregory Blank November 1st 05 09:01 PM

spotting black and white prints
 
In article ,
"R.W. Behan" wrote:

If you use Spot Tone, try a bit of Photo Flo in the solution.

But there's something far superior to Spot Tone, in my experience. A set of
10 pens, called SpotPen, are much easier to use. They're pens with very
fine felt tips, and loaded with dye (similar to Spot Tone) of varying
densities, from nearly-white to nearly-black. First you choose the pen with
the shade of gray that matches the background of your white spots, and then
you use them just like the sable brush--adding dots of dye until the spot
disappears.

Neat, quick, simple, effective--even on RC papers.
Good luck.
Dick Behan


Do you know if they are said to be archival? That is are they guaranteed
not to discolor within xxx number of years ? Some markers use solvent to
transport the dye and over a fairly short time could become an issue.
Granted anytime you use a dye on a print discoloring can become an issue
but solvent could foment it.

--
LF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

R.W. Behan November 2nd 05 01:02 AM

spotting black and white prints
 
Can't tell you about archival qualities, Greg. I have some prints that are
probably 5 years old now with no sign of discoloration. I suspect this
stuff is as permanent as Spot Tone, anyway.


"Gregory Blank" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"R.W. Behan" wrote:

If you use Spot Tone, try a bit of Photo Flo in the solution.

But there's something far superior to Spot Tone, in my experience. A set
of
10 pens, called SpotPen, are much easier to use. They're pens with very
fine felt tips, and loaded with dye (similar to Spot Tone) of varying
densities, from nearly-white to nearly-black. First you choose the pen
with
the shade of gray that matches the background of your white spots, and
then
you use them just like the sable brush--adding dots of dye until the spot
disappears.

Neat, quick, simple, effective--even on RC papers.
Good luck.
Dick Behan


Do you know if they are said to be archival? That is are they guaranteed
not to discolor within xxx number of years ? Some markers use solvent to
transport the dye and over a fairly short time could become an issue.
Granted anytime you use a dye on a print discoloring can become an issue
but solvent could foment it.

--
LF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918




bill November 2nd 05 04:25 AM

spotting black and white prints
 
I have prints that I spotted with these pens .... I cannot even tell where
the spotting took place. They have been hanging for at least 10 years now.
These are easy and simple to use.

bill


"R.W. Behan" wrote in message
om...
Can't tell you about archival qualities, Greg. I have some prints that
are probably 5 years old now with no sign of discoloration. I suspect
this stuff is as permanent as Spot Tone, anyway.


"Gregory Blank" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"R.W. Behan" wrote:

If you use Spot Tone, try a bit of Photo Flo in the solution.

But there's something far superior to Spot Tone, in my experience. A
set of
10 pens, called SpotPen, are much easier to use. They're pens with very
fine felt tips, and loaded with dye (similar to Spot Tone) of varying
densities, from nearly-white to nearly-black. First you choose the pen
with
the shade of gray that matches the background of your white spots, and
then
you use them just like the sable brush--adding dots of dye until the
spot
disappears.

Neat, quick, simple, effective--even on RC papers.
Good luck.
Dick Behan


Do you know if they are said to be archival? That is are they guaranteed
not to discolor within xxx number of years ? Some markers use solvent to
transport the dye and over a fairly short time could become an issue.
Granted anytime you use a dye on a print discoloring can become an issue
but solvent could foment it.

--
LF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918






Gregory Blank November 2nd 05 11:41 AM

spotting black and white prints
 
In article ,
"R.W. Behan" wrote:

Can't tell you about archival qualities, Greg. I have some prints that are
probably 5 years old now with no sign of discoloration. I suspect this
stuff is as permanent as Spot Tone, anyway.


It very well could be as long lasting, upon searching I found two
companies make "Spot pen(s)" Marshalls and Tetenal.

--
LF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918


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