D3 and Filters
 

Now that I have a D3, which has all sorts of
color corrections in its electronics, do I
still have a use for the myriad colored
filters I have collected?

Thanks,
Mike.

D3 and Filters
 

In article upHNj.9322$XF3.7656@trnddc04, Mike -- Email Ignored
wrote:

Now that I have a D3, which has all sorts of
color corrections in its electronics, do I
still have a use for the myriad colored
filters I have collected?

in general, the only filters you need are a circular polarizer and
neutral density filter. coloured filter effects can be done much more
effectively in photoshop.

colour correction filters for tungsten light can theoretically reduce
noise by matching the light to the sensor's native white point, but
it's minor and the d3 does quite well in low light anyway.

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Mike -- Email Ignored wrote:
Now that I have a D3, which has all sorts of
color corrections in its electronics, do I
still have a use for the myriad colored
filters I have collected?
Use the workflow you are more comfortable with. I'm only
just starting to use WB on camera rather than using filters.
I'm familiar with using colour correction filters so for
months I have left the camera on daylight and used
correction filters. (NB - make sure the camera is set to
daylight, or it will try to adjust out the effect of the
filter).

I find that the use of correction filters gives me more
predictable colour balance than using the various WB
settings on camera. Of course the camera WB is faster.

BTW - if you are planning on doing B&W, then I'd suggest
still using your B&W contrast filters. Photoshop can emulate
them but the result just isn't the same.

I haven't done tests, but in theory using colour correction
filters should give you greater dynamic range in your
highlights and shadows when you are at extremes (such as
tungsten lighting).

Thanks,
Mike.

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In article
, Doug
Jewell wrote:

BTW - if you are planning on doing B&W, then I'd suggest
still using your B&W contrast filters. Photoshop can emulate
them but the result just isn't the same.

that's a bad idea. due to the bayer pattern, using a colour filter
will adversely affect the resolution of the sensor.

plus, photoshop can duplicate what the filter would have done and a
whole lot more, including selectively applying various filters to
different parts of the image.

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"Mike -- Email Ignored" wrote in message
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Now that I have a D3, which has all sorts of
color corrections in its electronics, do I
still have a use for the myriad colored
filters I have collected?

Thanks,
Mike.

No. Throw them away except the polarizer.

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On 2008-04-17 05:30:18 -0700, Mike -- Email Ignored
said:

Now that I have a D3, which has all sorts of
color corrections in its electronics, do I
still have a use for the myriad colored
filters I have collected?

Thanks,
Mike.

Yes. Among other things, they make great Christmas ornaments.

Seriously, though, there are things that have to be done with colored
filters which cannot be easily duplicated in software. Lately I've been
reading Jeff McNally's "The Moment It Clicks," for example. When you
have different light sources of different types lighting a scene, color
filters on your lens and color gels on your strobes can give you skin
tones and a consistency of lighting that are not otherwise possible.

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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On 2008-04-17 05:30:18 -0700, Mike -- Email Ignored
said:

Now that I have a D3, which has all sorts of
color corrections in its electronics, do I
still have a use for the myriad colored
filters I have collected?

Thanks,
Mike.

Yes. Among other things, they make great Christmas ornaments.

Seriously, though, there are things that have to be done with colored
filters which cannot be easily duplicated in software. Lately I've been
reading Jeff McNally's "The Moment It Clicks," for example. When you have
different light sources of different types lighting a scene, color filters
on your lens and color gels on your strobes can give you skin tones and a
consistency of lighting that are not otherwise possible.

http://www.schneiderkreuznach.com/fi...are_filter.htm ?

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On 2008-04-17 09:44:25 -0700, "OldBoy" said:

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
news:2008041709121075249-christophercampbell@hotmailcom...
On 2008-04-17 05:30:18 -0700, Mike -- Email Ignored
said:

Now that I have a D3, which has all sorts of
color corrections in its electronics, do I
still have a use for the myriad colored
filters I have collected?

Thanks,
Mike.

Yes. Among other things, they make great Christmas ornaments.

Seriously, though, there are things that have to be done with colored
filters which cannot be easily duplicated in software. Lately I've been
reading Jeff McNally's "The Moment It Clicks," for example. When you
have different light sources of different types lighting a scene, color
filters on your lens and color gels on your strobes can give you skin
tones and a consistency of lighting that are not otherwise possible.

http://www.schneiderkreuznach.com/fi...are_filter.htm ?

I am well aware that there are plenty of software filters out there and
I use them. I think Nikon's filter plug-ins for Capture NX are even
better than these guys. However, software cannot always replicate the
effect of real filters, especially when using spot gels or mixed
lighting.

Neither is it possible to correct white balance in software and get the
same results as getting white balance right in the first place. You can
sometimes get pretty close, but it is definitely not the same.

There is a huge difference between approximating an effect in software
and nailing it in the original image. I know there are photographers
who think they are artists and that they can 'feel' the color
temperature, or that they can walk into a room and tell you what the
white balance should be. I am not one of them. Furthermore, I think
that guys who claim they can 'feel' the color temperature are deluded.
I have never seen one of them who actually could get the white balance
right in tricky lighting situations, or even in an ordinary office with
fluorescent ceiling panels.

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

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Bravo! Well put. This naive idea that Photoshop can do everything. is just
that: naive.And dumb also...


Neither is it possible to correct white balance in software and get the
same results as getting white balance right in the first place. You can
sometimes get pretty close, but it is definitely not the same.

There is a huge difference between approximating an effect in software and
nailing it in the original image.
--
Waddling Eagle

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On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:41:45 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote:

Bravo! Well put. This naive idea that Photoshop can do everything. is just
that: naive.And dumb also...

It isn't always possible to "nail it in the original image."
That is why Photoshop exists. And I use it regularly on the outliers
that can be pulled back from the brink with software.

Knowing the limitations of Photoshop, however, is an incentive to
"nail it in the original image."

Lg




Neither is it possible to correct white balance in software and get the
same results as getting white balance right in the first place. You can
sometimes get pretty close, but it is definitely not the same.

There is a huge difference between approximating an effect in software and
nailing it in the original image.
--
Waddling Eagle