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Savageduck[_3_] February 1st 18 05:29 AM

Fuji buys Xerox. The king is dead
 
On Jan 31, 2018, RichA wrote
(in ):

https://petapixel.com/2018/01/31/fuj...rox-6-1b-deal/


Yup!
I guess that was a better deal than bailing Nikon out.

....and there are a whole bunch of happy Xerox shareholders.
http://www.fujifilmholdings.com/en/news/2018/0131_01_02.html

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Regards,
Savageduck


Alfred Molon[_4_] February 1st 18 06:51 PM

Fuji buys Xerox. The king is dead
 
In article .com,
Savageduck says...
I guess that was a better deal than bailing Nikon out.


Nikon are losing money?
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http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/
http://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site

SMS February 1st 18 07:19 PM

Fuji buys Xerox. The king is dead
 
On 2/1/2018 9:51 AM, Alfred Molon wrote:
In article .com,
Savageduck says...
I guess that was a better deal than bailing Nikon out.


Nikon are losing money?


Yes.

It would not be surprising if Canon's camera division is also
unprofitable, but cameras are a small part of Canon's business.

Compact point and shoot camera sales have dwindled due to smart phones.

The Fuji mirrorless cameras are now the choice of professionals. I
teased a professional photographer I know about him selling off all his
Nikon equipment, and he said that the shift to Fuji by professionals has
been amazing.

There was already Fuji-Xerox in Asia, they're just taking over all of Xerox.

nospam February 1st 18 07:33 PM

Fuji buys Xerox. The king is dead
 
In article , sms
wrote:

The Fuji mirrorless cameras are now the choice of professionals. I
teased a professional photographer I know about him selling off all his
Nikon equipment, and he said that the shift to Fuji by professionals has
been amazing.


more made up rubbish. what one photographer supposedly did is not any
indication of the entire market. pros overwhelmingly continue to choose
nikon and canon, with a combined 86% share of the market. fuji may be
up slightly, but they're still *way* behind.

https://petapixel.com/assets/uploads/2017/02/topcamerabrands.jpg

https://petapixel.com/2017/02/16/cam...-shots-world-p
ress-photo-2017/
The breakdown of camera brands shows that Canon and Nikon are still
dominant, but Fujifilm is now seeing more representation:
....
In terms of camera system used, DSLR cameras were behind 88.8% of the
winners, mirrorless cameras had 5.55%, and other types represented
another 5.55%.

last year:
https://petapixel.com/2016/02/19/her...t-won-world-pr
ess-photo-2016/
DSLRs continue to reign supreme when it comes to photojournalism. At
least 40 of the winning shots were captured using full frame DSLRs ‹
mirrorless, compact, and action cameras accounted for one winning
photo each.

Savageduck[_3_] February 1st 18 09:15 PM

Fuji buys Xerox. The king is dead
 
On Feb 1, 2018, Alfred Molon wrote
(in m):

In iganews.com,
Savageduck says...
I guess that was a better deal than bailing Nikon out.


Nikon are losing money?


https://petapixel.com/2017/06/06/rep...rnment-asking-
fuji-help-nikon/

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Regards,
Savageduck


SMS February 2nd 18 12:31 AM

Fuji buys Xerox. The king is dead
 
On 2/1/2018 12:15 PM, Savageduck wrote:

https://petapixel.com/2017/06/06/rep...rnment-asking-
fuji-help-nikon/


Japan doesn't want a chinese or Korean company taking over Nikon.

Nikon is very late to mirrorless, which is where all the growth in
high-value digital cameras is occurring. "Canon and Nikon have both
dabbled in mirrorless cameras in recent years but have failed to create
products that are competitive against the offerings of companies like
Sony and Fujifilm." Unfortunately for Canon and Nikon, this is an
industry where it can be fatal to be late because few people switch
systems once they begin acquiring lenses and other accessories.

The Fuji-X series has now become the de-facto mirrorless standard for
professionals. Nikon recently announced their new Z mount at CES, but
there won't be much leverage there because existing F mount lenses can't
be used without some kind of clunky adapter which professionals hate.
The Nikon 1 mirrorless system has not taken off.

No one thought mirroless would displace SLRs so quickly but the size and
weight advantages proved irresistible for a) non-studio photography
(where size and weight don't matter) and b) sports, and wildlife
photography where continuous auto-focus performance is better with the
SLR, and an optical viewfinder is preferred. But for other professional
use, like weddings, the size and weight advantages of mirrorless systems
are overwhelming.


nospam February 2nd 18 01:28 AM

Fuji buys Xerox. The king is dead
 
In article , sms
wrote:

No one thought mirroless would displace SLRs so quickly but the size and
weight advantages proved irresistible for a) non-studio photography
(where size and weight don't matter) and b) sports, and wildlife
photography where continuous auto-focus performance is better with the
SLR, and an optical viewfinder is preferred. But for other professional
use, like weddings, the size and weight advantages of mirrorless systems
are overwhelming.


mirrorless has not displaced slrs. not even remotely close.

https://petapixel.com/2017/02/16/cam...-shots-world-p
ress-photo-2017/
In terms of camera system used, DSLR cameras were behind 88.8% of
the winners, mirrorless cameras had 5.55%, and other types represented
another 5.55%.

maybe one day they will. not today.

Savageduck[_3_] February 2nd 18 01:36 AM

Fuji buys Xerox. The king is dead
 
On Feb 1, 2018, sms wrote
(in article ):

On 2/1/2018 12:15 PM, Savageduck wrote:

https://petapixel.com/2017/06/06/rep...rnment-asking-
fuji-help-nikon/


Japan doesn't want a chinese or Korean company taking over Nikon.

Nikon is very late to mirrorless, which is where all the growth in
high-value digital cameras is occurring. "Canon and Nikon have both
dabbled in mirrorless cameras in recent years but have failed to create
products that are competitive against the offerings of companies like
Sony and Fujifilm." Unfortunately for Canon and Nikon, this is an
industry where it can be fatal to be late because few people switch
systems once they begin acquiring lenses and other accessories.

The Fuji-X series has now become the de-facto mirrorless standard for
professionals. Nikon recently announced their new Z mount at CES, but
there won't be much leverage there because existing F mount lenses can't
be used without some kind of clunky adapter which professionals hate.
The Nikon 1 mirrorless system has not taken off.

No one thought mirroless would displace SLRs so quickly but the size and
weight advantages proved irresistible for a) non-studio photography
(where size and weight don't matter) and b) sports, and wildlife
photography where continuous auto-focus performance is better with the
SLR, and an optical viewfinder is preferred. But for other professional
use, like weddings, the size and weight advantages of mirrorless systems
are overwhelming.


....and even that is rapidly changing. For studio work there is now the
Fujifilm GFX50S with MF sensor, and some very good glass. When it comes to
AF-S/AF-C and tracking, the X-T2, and X-E3 are not far behind DSLR
performance, and in some comparisons, not all, might even be considered
better.

http://thephotofundamentalist.com/un...-a-dslr-after-
mirrorless-canon-5d-iv/

http://macfilos.com/photo/2018/1/23/...ving-from-the-
world-of-dslr

https://photographylife.com/fuji-x-t2-and-xf-100-400mm-for-bird-photography

http://danielkorzeniewskiphoto.com/fuji-gfx-50s-travel-camera/#

https://fujilove.com/shooting-motor-sport-in-shanghai/

https://fujifilm-blog.com/2017/11/22...ectator-horse-
racing/#comments

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Regards,
Savageduck


Savageduck[_3_] February 2nd 18 01:44 AM

Fuji buys Xerox. The king is dead
 
On Feb 1, 2018, Savageduck wrote
(in iganews.com):

On Feb 1, 2018, sms wrote
(in article ):

On 2/1/2018 12:15 PM, Savageduck wrote:

https://petapixel.com/2017/06/06/rep...rnment-asking-
fuji-help-nikon/


Japan doesn't want a chinese or Korean company taking over Nikon.

Nikon is very late to mirrorless, which is where all the growth in
high-value digital cameras is occurring. "Canon and Nikon have both
dabbled in mirrorless cameras in recent years but have failed to create
products that are competitive against the offerings of companies like
Sony and Fujifilm." Unfortunately for Canon and Nikon, this is an
industry where it can be fatal to be late because few people switch
systems once they begin acquiring lenses and other accessories.

The Fuji-X series has now become the de-facto mirrorless standard for
professionals. Nikon recently announced their new Z mount at CES, but
there won't be much leverage there because existing F mount lenses can't
be used without some kind of clunky adapter which professionals hate.
The Nikon 1 mirrorless system has not taken off.

No one thought mirroless would displace SLRs so quickly but the size and
weight advantages proved irresistible for a) non-studio photography
(where size and weight don't matter) and b) sports, and wildlife
photography where continuous auto-focus performance is better with the
SLR, and an optical viewfinder is preferred. But for other professional
use, like weddings, the size and weight advantages of mirrorless systems
are overwhelming.


...and even that is rapidly changing. For studio work there is now the
Fujifilm GFX50S with MF sensor, and some very good glass. When it comes to
AF-S/AF-C and tracking, the X-T2, and X-E3 are not far behind DSLR
performance, and in some comparisons, not all, might even be considered
better.

http://thephotofundamentalist.com/uncategorized/returning-to-a-dslr-after-mirrorless-canon-5d-iv/

http://macfilos.com/photo/2018/1/23/fuji-x-two-years-after-moving-from-the-world-of-dslr

https://photographylife.com/fuji-x-t2-and-xf-100-400mm-for-bird-photography

http://danielkorzeniewskiphoto.com/fuji-gfx-50s-travel-camera/#

https://fujilove.com/shooting-motor-sport-in-shanghai/

https://fujifilm-blog.com/2017/11/22/sports-photography-as-a-spectator-horse-racing/#comments


--

Regards,
Savageduck


SMS February 2nd 18 01:58 AM

Fuji buys Xerox. The king is dead
 
On 2/1/2018 4:11 PM, RichA wrote:
On Thursday, 1 February 2018 18:31:25 UTC-5, sms wrote:
On 2/1/2018 12:15 PM, Savageduck wrote:

https://petapixel.com/2017/06/06/rep...rnment-asking-
fuji-help-nikon/


Japan doesn't want a chinese or Korean company taking over Nikon.

Nikon is very late to mirrorless, which is where all the growth in
high-value digital cameras is occurring.


Nikon's dithering has been almost as myopic as Kodak thinking digital cameras were a far-off possibility, in 1989.


Or Xerox deciding not to develop ink-jet printers. I worked for Xerox
back then, in their printer division that made impact printers.



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