OT Query
 

Back in 1982 - in the USA - how many folk taking photographs would have
still been using black and white film for everyday snapshots?

Just a rough guesstimate is all I'm after!

TIA for any ideas.

--
David B.

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On 2017-04-24 15:37:21 +0000, "David B." said:

Back in 1982 - in the USA - how many folk taking photographs would have
still been using black and white film for everyday snapshots?

Just a rough guesstimate is all I'm after!

TIA for any ideas.

In 1982 for snapshots, probably less than 5%, probably much less. The
thing to differentiate here is the hobbyist/enthusiast photographer who
would be shooting and much of his/her own processing from the snapshot
shooter.

In 1982 the snapshot shooter was using Instamatics, disposable cameras,
and 35mm P&S cameras, with most processing done at photo kiosks, and
mail-in processors. Today they are using phone cameras and very few
bother with processing or printing any of their snapshots.
--
Regards,

Savageduck

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On 24/04/2017 19:31, Savageduck wrote:
On 2017-04-24 15:37:21 +0000, "David B."
said:

Back in 1982 - in the USA - how many folk taking photographs would
have still been using black and white film for everyday snapshots?

Just a rough guesstimate is all I'm after!

TIA for any ideas.

In 1982 for snapshots, probably less than 5%, probably much less. The
thing to differentiate here is the hobbyist/enthusiast photographer who
would be shooting and much of his/her own processing from the snapshot
shooter.

In 1982 the snapshot shooter was using Instamatics, disposable cameras,
and 35mm P&S cameras, with most processing done at photo kiosks, and
mail-in processors. Today they are using phone cameras and very few
bother with processing or printing any of their snapshots.


That's much as I suspected.

Thanks, Savageduck :-)

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On 2017-04-24, David B. wrote:
On 24/04/2017 19:31, Savageduck wrote:
On 2017-04-24 15:37:21 +0000, "David B."
said:

Back in 1982 - in the USA - how many folk taking photographs would
have still been using black and white film for everyday snapshots?

Just a rough guesstimate is all I'm after!

TIA for any ideas.

In 1982 for snapshots, probably less than 5%, probably much less. The
thing to differentiate here is the hobbyist/enthusiast photographer
who would be shooting and much of his/her own processing from the
snapshot shooter.

In 1982 the snapshot shooter was using Instamatics, disposable
cameras, and 35mm P&S cameras, with most processing done at photo
kiosks, and mail-in processors. Today they are using phone cameras
and very few bother with processing or printing any of their
snapshots.


That's much as I suspected.

Thanks, Savageduck :-)

I don't know about the USA, but in the UK by the mid 1980s it was
difficult to find commercial black and white developing and printing
services that were not either very expensive or very bad.

The 'chromogenic' monochrome films that were processed using the same
'C-41' chemistry as colour print films, appeared around this time and
were a partial solution for those wishing to take monochrome pictures
and have the developing and processing done for them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-41_process#C-41_.22chromogenic.22_black-and-white_films

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Whiskers Wrote in message:
On 2017-04-24, David B. wrote:
On 24/04/2017 19:31, Savageduck wrote:
On 2017-04-24 15:37:21 +0000, "David B."
said:

Back in 1982 - in the USA - how many folk taking photographs would
have still been using black and white film for everyday snapshots?

Just a rough guesstimate is all I'm after!

TIA for any ideas.

In 1982 for snapshots, probably less than 5%, probably much less. The
thing to differentiate here is the hobbyist/enthusiast photographer
who would be shooting and much of his/her own processing from the
snapshot shooter.

In 1982 the snapshot shooter was using Instamatics, disposable
cameras, and 35mm P&S cameras, with most processing done at photo
kiosks, and mail-in processors. Today they are using phone cameras
and very few bother with processing or printing any of their
snapshots.


That's much as I suspected.

Thanks, Savageduck :-)

I don't know about the USA, but in the UK by the mid 1980s it was
difficult to find commercial black and white developing and printing
services that were not either very expensive or very bad.

The 'chromogenic' monochrome films that were processed using the same
'C-41' chemistry as colour print films, appeared around this time and
were a partial solution for those wishing to take monochrome pictures
and have the developing and processing done for them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-41_process#C-41_.22chromogenic.22_black-and-white_films

I remember those. This is what made me refrain from trying them
out: "These films work like any other C-41 film; development
causes dyes to form in the emulsion."
I continued with T-Max and me own little tanks!ヅ Ilford seem make
them still, if I read the article right so it ain't too late
yet...

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On 25/04/2017 10:48, Whiskers wrote:
On 2017-04-24, David B. wrote:
On 24/04/2017 19:31, Savageduck wrote:
On 2017-04-24 15:37:21 +0000, "David B."
said:

Back in 1982 - in the USA - how many folk taking photographs would
have still been using black and white film for everyday snapshots?

Just a rough guesstimate is all I'm after!

TIA for any ideas.

In 1982 for snapshots, probably less than 5%, probably much less. The
thing to differentiate here is the hobbyist/enthusiast photographer
who would be shooting and much of his/her own processing from the
snapshot shooter.

In 1982 the snapshot shooter was using Instamatics, disposable
cameras, and 35mm P&S cameras, with most processing done at photo
kiosks, and mail-in processors. Today they are using phone cameras
and very few bother with processing or printing any of their
snapshots.


That's much as I suspected.

Thanks, Savageduck :-)

I don't know about the USA, but in the UK by the mid 1980s it was
difficult to find commercial black and white developing and printing
services that were not either very expensive or very bad.

The 'chromogenic' monochrome films that were processed using the same
'C-41' chemistry as colour print films, appeared around this time and
were a partial solution for those wishing to take monochrome pictures
and have the developing and processing done for them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-41_process#C-41_.22chromogenic.22_black-and-white_films

Many thanks, 'Whiskers'! :-)

That's much as I remember things here in the UK.

--
Regards,
David B.

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On 2017-04-25, android wrote:
Whiskers Wrote in message:
On 2017-04-24, David B. wrote:
On 24/04/2017 19:31, Savageduck wrote:
On 2017-04-24 15:37:21 +0000, "David B."
said:

Back in 1982 - in the USA - how many folk taking photographs would
have still been using black and white film for everyday snapshots?

Just a rough guesstimate is all I'm after!

TIA for any ideas.

In 1982 for snapshots, probably less than 5%, probably much less. The
thing to differentiate here is the hobbyist/enthusiast photographer
who would be shooting and much of his/her own processing from the
snapshot shooter.

In 1982 the snapshot shooter was using Instamatics, disposable
cameras, and 35mm P&S cameras, with most processing done at photo
kiosks, and mail-in processors. Today they are using phone cameras
and very few bother with processing or printing any of their
snapshots.


That's much as I suspected.

Thanks, Savageduck :-)

I don't know about the USA, but in the UK by the mid 1980s it was
difficult to find commercial black and white developing and printing
services that were not either very expensive or very bad.

The 'chromogenic' monochrome films that were processed using the same
'C-41' chemistry as colour print films, appeared around this time and
were a partial solution for those wishing to take monochrome pictures
and have the developing and processing done for them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-41_process#C-41_.22chromogenic.22_black-and-white_films

I remember those. This is what made me refrain from trying them
out: "These films work like any other C-41 film; development
causes dyes to form in the emulsion."
I continued with T-Max and me own little tanks!ヅ Ilford seem make
them still, if I read the article right so it ain't too late
yet...

I remember having fun with the 'multi-speed' aspect of Ilford XP400, but
I never got around to doing my own C-41 processing. I still have my old
darkroom kit in boxes somewhere, and my cameras. I should dust them
off!

--
-- ^^^^^^^^^^
-- Whiskers
-- ~~~~~~~~~~

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On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 18:22:06 +0100, Whiskers
wrote in message :

On 2017-04-25, android wrote:
Whiskers Wrote in message:
On 2017-04-24, David B. wrote:
On 24/04/2017 19:31, Savageduck wrote:
On 2017-04-24 15:37:21 +0000, "David B."
said:

Back in 1982 - in the USA - how many folk taking photographs would
have still been using black and white film for everyday snapshots?

Just a rough guesstimate is all I'm after!

TIA for any ideas.

In 1982 for snapshots, probably less than 5%, probably much less.
The thing to differentiate here is the hobbyist/enthusiast
photographer who would be shooting and much of his/her own
processing from the snapshot shooter.

In 1982 the snapshot shooter was using Instamatics, disposable
cameras, and 35mm P&S cameras, with most processing done at photo
kiosks, and mail-in processors. Today they are using phone cameras
and very few bother with processing or printing any of their
snapshots.


That's much as I suspected.

Thanks, Savageduck :-)

I don't know about the USA, but in the UK by the mid 1980s it was
difficult to find commercial black and white developing and printing
services that were not either very expensive or very bad.

The 'chromogenic' monochrome films that were processed using the same
'C-41' chemistry as colour print films, appeared around this time and
were a partial solution for those wishing to take monochrome pictures
and have the developing and processing done for them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
C-41_process#C-41_.22chromogenic.22_black-and-white_films

I remember those. This is what made me refrain from trying them
out: "These films work like any other C-41 film; development causes
dyes to form in the emulsion."
I continued with T-Max and me own little tanks!ヅ Ilford seem make
them still, if I read the article right so it ain't too late yet...

I remember having fun with the 'multi-speed' aspect of Ilford XP400, but
I never got around to doing my own C-41 processing. I still have my old
darkroom kit in boxes somewhere, and my cameras. I should dust them
off!

T-Max is regularly BW so I used D76. All the color that I did was some
Cibachrome but that took allot of time and my "lab" was a tad too adhoky
for that in the long run.
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Whisky-dave Wrote in message:
On Tuesday, 25 April 2017 18:46:44 UTC+1, android wrote:
On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 18:22:06 +0100, Whiskers
wrote in message :

On 2017-04-25, android wrote:
Whiskers Wrote in message:
On 2017-04-24, David B. wrote:
On 24/04/2017 19:31, Savageduck wrote:
On 2017-04-24 15:37:21 +0000, "David B."
said:

Back in 1982 - in the USA - how many folk taking photographs would
have still been using black and white film for everyday snapshots?

Just a rough guesstimate is all I'm after!

TIA for any ideas.

In 1982 for snapshots, probably less than 5%, probably much less.
The thing to differentiate here is the hobbyist/enthusiast
photographer who would be shooting and much of his/her own
processing from the snapshot shooter.

In 1982 the snapshot shooter was using Instamatics, disposable
cameras, and 35mm P&S cameras, with most processing done at photo
kiosks, and mail-in processors. Today they are using phone cameras
and very few bother with processing or printing any of their
snapshots.


That's much as I suspected.

Thanks, Savageduck :-)

I don't know about the USA, but in the UK by the mid 1980s it was
difficult to find commercial black and white developing and printing
services that were not either very expensive or very bad.

The 'chromogenic' monochrome films that were processed using the same
'C-41' chemistry as colour print films, appeared around this time and
were a partial solution for those wishing to take monochrome pictures
and have the developing and processing done for them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
C-41_process#C-41_.22chromogenic.22_black-and-white_films

I remember those. This is what made me refrain from trying them
out: "These films work like any other C-41 film; development causes
dyes to form in the emulsion."
I continued with T-Max and me own little tanks!ヅ Ilford seem make
them still, if I read the article right so it ain't too late yet...

I remember having fun with the 'multi-speed' aspect of Ilford XP400, but
I never got around to doing my own C-41 processing. I still have my old
darkroom kit in boxes somewhere, and my cameras. I should dust them
off!

T-Max is regularly BW so I used D76.

I used acuspeed and HP4 and HP5 I started with out of date HP3 in 50ft rolls.

All the color that I did was some
Cibachrome but that took allot of time and my "lab" was a tad too adhoky
for that in the long run.

I don't rememeber Cibachrome taking much more time than doing B&W although getting the temps right was more tricky.

You did have to balance the colors, besides tonality a bit and
work with drums and stuff...

I tried agfachrome too but never really liked the colours compared with Cibachrome.

Agfachrome was a film...

I do rememeber the interesting smells of Cibachrome and the fizzing when adding the neutralizer.


I'm sure you did... :-!
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On 2017-04-26, Whisky-dave wrote:
On Tuesday, 25 April 2017 18:46:44 UTC+1, android wrote:
On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 18:22:06 +0100, Whiskers
wrote in message
:

On 2017-04-25, android wrote:
Whiskers Wrote in message:
On 2017-04-24, David B. wrote:
On 24/04/2017 19:31, Savageduck wrote:
On 2017-04-24 15:37:21 +0000, "David B."
said:

Back in 1982 - in the USA - how many folk taking photographs
would have still been using black and white film for everyday
snapshots?

Just a rough guesstimate is all I'm after!

TIA for any ideas.

In 1982 for snapshots, probably less than 5%, probably much
less. The thing to differentiate here is the
hobbyist/enthusiast photographer who would be shooting and much
of his/her own processing from the snapshot shooter.

In 1982 the snapshot shooter was using Instamatics, disposable
cameras, and 35mm P&S cameras, with most processing done at
photo kiosks, and mail-in processors. Today they are using
phone cameras and very few bother with processing or printing
any of their snapshots.


That's much as I suspected.

Thanks, Savageduck :-)

I don't know about the USA, but in the UK by the mid 1980s it was
difficult to find commercial black and white developing and
printing services that were not either very expensive or very
bad.

The 'chromogenic' monochrome films that were processed using the
same 'C-41' chemistry as colour print films, appeared around this
time and were a partial solution for those wishing to take
monochrome pictures and have the developing and processing done
for them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
C-41_process#C-41_.22chromogenic.22_black-and-white_films

I remember those. This is what made me refrain from trying them
out: "These films work like any other C-41 film; development
causes dyes to form in the emulsion." I continued with T-Max and
me own little tanks!ヅ Ilford seem make them still, if I read the
article right so it ain't too late yet...

I remember having fun with the 'multi-speed' aspect of Ilford
XP400, but I never got around to doing my own C-41 processing. I
still have my old darkroom kit in boxes somewhere, and my cameras.
I should dust them off!

T-Max is regularly BW so I used D76.

I used acuspeed and HP4 and HP5 I started with out of date HP3 in
50ft rolls.

All the color that I did was some Cibachrome but that took allot of
time and my "lab" was a tad too adhoky for that in the long run.

I don't rememeber Cibachrome taking much more time than doing B&W
although getting the temps right was more tricky. I tried agfachrome
too but never really liked the colours compared with Cibachrome. I do
rememeber the interesting smells of Cibachrome and the fizzing when
adding the neutralizer.

I had a friend with access to a 'proper' club darkroom with Cibachrome
processing available; she produced some excellent prints for me from my
6x6 slides. But she didn't enjoy it. My own darkroom was a temporary
thing in the bathroom, and strictly black and white.

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-- ^^^^^^^^^^
-- Whiskers
-- ~~~~~~~~~~