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			<title><![CDATA[Do Canon's competitors have something like CHDK?  Time Lapse, etc?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Do any of Canon's competitors have something like CHDK?
Feature-wise, I mean, in cheaper cameras?   
Time Lapse, remote, motion detection, manual, long...]]></description>
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Do any of Canon's competitors have something like CHDK?<br />
Feature-wise, I mean, in cheaper cameras?   <br />
Time Lapse, remote, motion detection, manual, long video,<br />
etc?<br />
<br />
My impression is, once CHDK is properly tweaked, it can <br />
load at power-up every time, and remain transparent, <br />
buried in the features menus until needed.  Is that true?<br />
<br />
I saw a video demo of motion detection (object falling into<br />
bathtub water). It didn't seem very sensitive, a moving hand<br />
didn't trigger.  Is sensitivity adjustable?  If so how much?<br />
<br />
All the reviews I've seen so far don't seem objective.  They<br />
either say my hero, or crapola.  Nor do I see practical <br />
questions like these (here) addressed.  Look and feel, etc.<br />
Any pointers?    <br />
<br />
Thanks!  <br />
<br />
=========<br />
 in rec.photo.digital, Re: CHDK does 1/1,000,000 second, now we<br />
are talking.....; <br />
  On Sun, 16 Nov 2008, calvin-torgen wrote: <br />
  <br />
<font color="blue"><i><br />
&gt; This is why I know that so many of you ...have never even ran CHDK.<br />
&gt;  ... and take advantage of the hundreds of new features and immeasurable <br />
&gt; new creative possibilities that CHDK gives back to the world of<br />
&gt; photography.</i></font><br />
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			<dc:creator>Crash!</dc:creator>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: "Tonight, you men will sleep with your cameras!"]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 22:06:20 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[George Kerby  <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On 8/12/10 4:29 PM, in article
>3e469679-887b-4d9f-ab21-2635ec050ba0@z28g2000yqh.googlegroups.com,...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>George Kerby  &gt; wrote:<font color="blue"><i><br />
&gt;On 8/12/10 4:29 PM, in article<br />
, &quot;RichA&quot;<br />
&gt; wrote:<br />
&gt;<font color="green"><i><br />
&gt;&gt; &quot;You will give your lens, a dog's name.&quot; (because that's how they<br />
&gt;&gt; perform).<br />
&gt;&gt; <br />
&gt;&gt; <a href="http://dpreview.com/news/1008/10081205sony18200mmemount.asp" target="_blank">http://dpreview.com/news/1008/100812...00mmemount.asp</a></i></font><br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;You have completely lost what was left of your mind.</i></font><br />
<br />
You haven't even seen some of the disgusting filth he posts to other<br />
newsgroups.<br />
<br />
-- <br />
Ray Fischer         <br />
<a </a>  <br />
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			<dc:creator>Ray Fischer</dc:creator>
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			<title>Re: Camera makers need to come unstuck from three things:</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 22:04:50 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[RichA  <rander3127@gmail.com> wrote:
>1.  Fixed ISO values of 100, 200, 400.  Most if not all have already

With all you know about business and cameras it's...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>RichA  &gt; wrote:<font color="blue"><i><br />
&gt;1.  Fixed ISO values of 100, 200, 400.  Most if not all have already</i></font><br />
<br />
With all you know about business and cameras it's amazing that you<br />
haven't created your own company and simply taken over.<br />
<br />
-- <br />
Ray Fischer         <br />
<a </a>  <br />
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			<title>Re: People who write serious articles about digital cameras</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 20:51:25 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>It is sort of sad about you.  You are rapidly loosing traction here and now 
find yourself digging really deep to find fresh fodder for your mill.

Just...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>It is sort of sad about you.  You are rapidly loosing traction here and now <br />
find yourself digging really deep to find fresh fodder for your mill.<br />
<br />
Just quietly go away.  It might be the most dignified of all options now <br />
available to you.<br />
<br />
You have crapped in your own nest too many times.<br />
<br />
&quot;RichA&quot; &gt; wrote in message <br />
...<font color="blue"><i><br />
&gt; I'm speaking here about professionals who make a living writing about<br />
&gt; photography.  I read another article where the author had to start a<br />
&gt; &quot;Down Memory Lane&quot; jag about film.<br />
&gt; They should no longer be wasting space including any comments on film<br />
&gt; cameras.  Film is DEAD.  It has been dead since Canon released the<br />
&gt; 30D.  The nails in its coffin where pounded in when 8 megapixel DSLRs<br />
&gt; appeared.  Some darkroom alchemist may be able to wring 8 megapixels<br />
&gt; of info out of 35mm film, but that is the absolute limit, lack of<br />
&gt; resolution being only one shortcoming of film.  Film today is being<br />
&gt; rapidly abandoned by professionals and amateurs should do the same<br />
&gt; unless they are after some look film provides that digital can't, and<br />
&gt; today that covers very little ground.  But if you are going to write<br />
&gt; some kind of comparison article, stick to digital versus digital,<br />
&gt; because comparing digital versus film is a useless exercise. </i></font><br />
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			<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charles[_2_]]]></dc:creator>
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			<title>Re: Death of the DSLR-TROLLS</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 16:06:18 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[DanP wrote:
> On Sep 1, 8:24 pm, TomTom <ttom697...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 09:26:34 -0400, "J. Clarke"
>> <jclarke.use...@cox.net>...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>DanP wrote:<font color="blue"><i><br />
&gt; On Sep 1, 8:24 pm, TomTom &gt; wrote:<font color="green"><i><br />
&gt;&gt; On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 09:26:34 -0400, &quot;J. Clarke&quot;<br />
&gt;&gt; &gt; wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt;<font color="darkred"><i><br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; Note that the Alpha 33 and 55 are &quot;EVIL&quot; (&quot;Electronic Viewfinder<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; Interchangeable Lens) cameras-</i></font><br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; You DSLR Trolls sure do love denigrating anything that's not a DSLR,<br />
&gt;&gt; don't</i></font><br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Even the people who likes them calls them EVIL.<br />
&gt; <a href="http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/01/five-reasons-you-should-ditch-your-dslr/" target="_blank">http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/...tch-your-dslr/</a><br />
&gt; See the reference to compact cameras.</i></font><br />
<br />
EVIL schmevil. Nothwithstanding those who like the term (apparently because <br />
they think it's cute), it's not going anywhere.<br />
<br />
Harrington's Famous Predictions #75,632: No camera manufacturer is going to <br />
advertise or catalog any camera model as &quot;EVIL.&quot;<br />
<br />
H.F.P. #75,633: No serious photography periodical is going to adopt the term <br />
either, though it may get an occasional mention here or there. <br />
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			<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neil Harrington[_5_]]]></dc:creator>
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			<title>Re: Canon and Nikon mirrorless remind me of FOX and Disney at the inception of DVD</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 11:59:29 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[On Sun, 5 Sep 2010 08:24:06 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rander3127@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Sat on their greedy asses, let Warner Bros and MGM build the format
>and then...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>On Sun, 5 Sep 2010 08:24:06 -0700 (PDT), RichA &gt;<br />
wrote:<br />
<font color="blue"><i><br />
&gt;Sat on their greedy asses, let Warner Bros and MGM build the format<br />
&gt;and then they jumped in.  Way to innovate!  Same as always, I guess.<br />
&gt;Nikon and Canon haven't brought ANYTHING new to the table in the last<br />
&gt;10 years, they built only on other's work.  Their saving grace<br />
&gt;(partially) is they do make good sensors.  Or in Nikon's case, Sony<br />
&gt;does.</i></font><br />
<br />
I imagine that would best correlate to you reminding me of<br />
Neanderthals at the inception of the Homo Sapians.<br />
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			<dc:creator>gamer_reg@yahoo.com</dc:creator>
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			<title>Re: People who write serious articles about digital cameras</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 11:56:53 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>You mean as opposed to youorself?</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>You mean as opposed to youorself?<br />
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			<dc:creator>gamer_reg@yahoo.com</dc:creator>
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			<title>Re: People who write serious articles about digital cameras</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 11:45:44 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[On Sun, 5 Sep 2010 20:20:21 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rander3127@gmail.com> wrote:
: I'm speaking here about professionals who make a living writing about
:...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>On Sun, 5 Sep 2010 20:20:21 -0700 (PDT), RichA &gt; wrote:<br />
: I'm speaking here about professionals who make a living writing about<br />
: photography.  I read another article where the author had to start a<br />
: &quot;Down Memory Lane&quot; jag about film.<br />
: They should no longer be wasting space including any comments on film<br />
: cameras.  Film is DEAD.  It has been dead since Canon released the<br />
: 30D.  The nails in its coffin where pounded in when 8 megapixel DSLRs<br />
: appeared.  Some darkroom alchemist may be able to wring 8 megapixels<br />
: of info out of 35mm film, but that is the absolute limit, lack of<br />
: resolution being only one shortcoming of film.  Film today is being<br />
: rapidly abandoned by professionals and amateurs should do the same<br />
: unless they are after some look film provides that digital can't, and<br />
: today that covers very little ground.  But if you are going to write<br />
: some kind of comparison article, stick to digital versus digital,<br />
: because comparing digital versus film is a useless exercise.<br />
<br />
Is there a law in Ontario that compels you to read the articles written about<br />
film? If not, why do you care? If so, your problems transcend photography, and<br />
you ought to be out on the streets raising Hell instead of wasting your time<br />
babbling to us.<br />
<br />
Bob<br />
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			<dc:creator>Robert Coe</dc:creator>
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			<title>First Eagle Shot Of The Season!!</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 11:42:50 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[It looks like eagle season on the East Coast is starting early this year.  I 
wasn't ready for it, but was glad I had my trusty dSLR in hand when I 
spotted...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>It looks like eagle season on the East Coast is starting early this year.  I <br />
wasn't ready for it, but was glad I had my trusty dSLR in hand when I <br />
spotted this big guy above.  He must be an old timer as he's the biggest one <br />
I've ever seen.  Anyone else spot eagles this time of year?<br />
<br />
&lt;http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm261/Ritaberk/Eagle.jpg&gt;<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
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			<dc:creator>Larry Thong</dc:creator>
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			<title>Agent puts my address in the from header</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 08:58:11 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[rather than my name.  I'd rather have it put my name there.

Version 6.00, just recovered from a severe unhandled exception error,
wiped out everything.  Had...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>rather than my name.  I'd rather have it put my name there.<br />
<br />
Version 6.00, just recovered from a severe unhandled exception error,<br />
wiped out everything.  Had to install agent from the beginning.<br />
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			<dc:creator>ckraftSPAMTRAP@west.net</dc:creator>
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			<title>Re: how to choose a camera.....</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 06:07:28 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Val Hallah wrote:
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/camera-reviews/7978309/Beginners-guide-to-choosing-a-compact-camera.html


Pity the poor newbie who...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Val Hallah wrote:<font color="blue"><i><br />
&gt; <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/camera-reviews/7978309/Beginners-guide-to-choosing-a-compact-camera.html" target="_blank">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...ct-camera.html</a></i></font><br />
<br />
<br />
Pity the poor newbie who follows that guide.<br />
Totally useless (information?)<br />
<br />
Bob Williams<br />
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			<title>Saint Rose of Lima</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 23:13:30 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hello:

The last Monday in August was a holiday in Lima, and from a perspective of 
history, I took the opportunity to take this...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hello:<br />
<br />
The last Monday in August was a holiday in Lima, and from a perspective of <br />
history, I took the opportunity to take this picture:<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/mmyv/4943826462/" target="_blank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/mmyv/4943826462/</a><br />
<br />
Thanks for your comments.<br />
<br />
--<br />
MMYV<br />
<a href="http://www.mmyv.com" target="_blank">http://www.mmyv.com</a> <br />
<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Dpreview rejig's it's sample galleries to force you to endure more ads]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 22:23:30 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA["RichA" <rander3127@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:332424bd-00a7-468a-a047-ffbb83840b95@e14g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
> The set-up before was perfect, you...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><br />
&quot;RichA&quot; &gt; wrote in message <br />
...<font color="blue"><i><br />
&gt; The set-up before was perfect, you could simply jump from one to the<br />
&gt; next and see the Exif.  Now it sucks.  I  guess Amazon wants more<br />
&gt; money out of them...<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; <a href="http://dpreview.com/galleries/reviewsamples/photos/515732/dsc00190?inalbum=sony-slt-a33-preview-samples" target="_blank">http://dpreview.com/galleries/review...review-samples</a></i></font><br />
<br />
You still can. <br />
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			<dc:creator>OG</dc:creator>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Dpreview rejig's it's sample galleries to force you to endure more ads]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 17:51:44 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>RichA Complaint # 134,786.</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>RichA Complaint # 134,786. <br />
<br />
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			<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neil Harrington[_5_]]]></dc:creator>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Dpreview rejig's it's sample galleries to force you to endure more ads]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 08:09:41 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA["RichA" <rander3127@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:332424bd-00a7-468a-a047-ffbb83840b95@e14g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
> The set-up before was perfect, you...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><br />
<br />
&quot;RichA&quot; &gt; wrote in message <br />
...<font color="blue"><i><br />
&gt; The set-up before was perfect, you could simply jump from one to the<br />
&gt; next and see the Exif.  Now it sucks.  I  guess Amazon wants more<br />
&gt; money out of them...<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; <a href="http://dpreview.com/galleries/reviewsamples/photos/515732/dsc00190?inalbum=sony-slt-a33-preview-samples" target="_blank">http://dpreview.com/galleries/review...review-samples</a></i></font><br />
<br />
Can't say I see any ads on DP Review but then again I am sensible and use <br />
Adblock. <br />
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